PBS president Joseph Pairin Kitingan has moved a motion for SAPP to be expelled from Barisan Nasional during the ruling coalition’s management committee meeting yesterday.The motion was seconded by VK Liew, president of another Sabah-based party LDP, according to a source from a BN component party at the meeting.
It is not known whether the party (UPKO), which is led by Minister in the PM’s Department Bernard Dompok, was invited to the meeting or whether it had chosen to stay away.
“Only the ‘three stooges’ attended - PBS, PBRS and LDP,” said the source. PBRS, or United Sabah People’s Party, is headed by Joseph Kurup.
or 3 blind mice!
ReplyDeleteThese 3 are betrayers of Sabah!
Shame on them!
Alamak, now we sabahans have earned another title 'stooges'. I cannot understand why it wans't peninaula-based parties who proposed and seconded the motion to expell SAPP. Why PBS and LDP still could not see the divide and rule tactics of our so-called 'saudara' from semenanjung. Why? Pairin still has too much tapai in his head kah? VK Liew still sleep-walking?
ReplyDeleteindeed pairin, kurup and vk are stooges. they are not heros, but zeros.
ReplyDeleteNo. No.. This is strategy... SAPP WONT out BN BUT only wan sacked by BN.... So no sabahan will said "KATAK" ! SO people of sabah will come to support SAPP ! After time past PBS will also said vote no-confidence againts BATAWI ! :0)
ReplyDeleteSo SAPP got expelled from BN. So what? Singapore got "expelled" from Malaysia and went on to become much more prosperous than Malaysia. So if SAPP got expelled from BN that would be the best thing that could happen to it because it can how enlist the support of the Sabah people and become their leader to champion their best interest.
ReplyDeleteIt is more than clear to the Sabah people that the many problems of Sabah such as too little oil money, intractable immigration problems, unsafe street, poor education system, racial disharmony, and many others are all the result of UMNO's deliberate policy of ketuanan Melayu and its deliberate strategy of dividing and conqureing the peoples of Sabah. And as long as Sabah's political parties are inside BN and kept in a row like a bunch of stupid ducks, they will never be in a position to make protests to the UMNO dominated BN to effect remedies. As long as Sabah parties are inside BN, they are virtual prisoners forced to betray their own Sabahan people. Therefore, in order for any Sabah political party to have the freedom and power to make changes for Sabah, it must first break free of the UMNO-BN. In other words, any Sabah party that wants to be pro-Sabah must work against BN who is the jailer of the Sabah people.
I hope the news that SAPP has been expelled from BN is true because that will be the first essentail step for SAPP to take before it can become a true champion of Sabah people.
LOL PAK-pak kangkuno.... Aramaiti... Ini Sabah ba.... :-)
ReplyDeleteBN tak berani sack SAPP kerana it is weak. Badawi came to power asking the people to tell him the truth and work with him. How to work with him when he was busy mourning the death of his first wife and marrying his second? How to tell him the truth when the only truth he knows is from his son-in-law? when yong teck lee told Badawi the truth that he (yong) lost confidence in him, Badawi got mad, and accused Yong of being greedy. But he has not told Malaysians what Yong was greedy for.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the people who described badawi as 'an incompetent, not-so-nice guy'. That, to be, translates into 'pemimpin yang tidak boleh diharap'.
Ayoooo,You guys know why? the three stooges makan buah anggur yang asam bah, they have regreted because SAPP and Datuk Yong Teck Lee is a Hero now...Datuk Yong is well known and the news paper even desribed Datuk Yong as a Political Star' bah,that is why ada orang cemburu bah!!!....but kesian they want to be a heroooo juga tapi pengecut!! urang Sabah cakap 'batapuk di bawah payung BN yang banyak lubang-lubang tuuuu'
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itu pairin suda lama mabuk. itu vk liew baru belajar minum, ada sikit-sikit mabuk. itulah dia orang dua dua bodoh bodoh sokong mau sapp keluar bn. butut butut bodoh punya orang. kanapa orang mabuk boleh jadi pemimpin?
ReplyDeleteooi, singapore got expelled from malaysia? are you sure? singapore wanted to leave. but that would have amounted to secession, which was illegal. but the idiots that ran our country than did not realise that expelling singapore also amount to secession.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Susah Susan. Pairin is a paramount idiot, otherwise he would have realised that he could be a leader of pride for the kadazandusun people, instead of being a subservient PBS leader licking the boots of the people who once wanted him hung!
ReplyDeletePairin : mau minum lihing? Oi VK marilah minum...
ReplyDeleteVK Liew : apa itu lihing? Aiyo punya main bau... bagut kitalang minum 3 sipuluh...
Pairin : kau ni... butut butut buduh, you mau saport sia ka ni??
VK Liew : Aiya natuk pailin ah, lu sikalang kaya lo, sama itu musa aman abang atik... lu spent saya minum 3 sipuluh la..
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'Cheers' has a point. It is difficult to survive in Sabah politics by telling the truth. That is why we have a culture of hypocrisy. The person who ask you to tell him the truth is likely to get back at you for your honesty. Try telling your wife the truth of what you did the last time you visited Bangkok!What do you think she's gonna say? "Honey, that's ok. I understand man." Or, "what? you itchy p...k! Am I not good enough for you?" Badawi's reaction to SAPP's no-confidence motion was anger. But he could not describe Yong as 'itchy p...k' so he called him 'greedy' instead. Don't get me wrong. Badawi never ran oout of words. He just never had enough English vocabulary because he went to school in Egypt!
ReplyDeleteExpel, expel lah! No big deal.
ReplyDeleteTo Datuk Yong, SAPP must stay in BN,let BN sack you...but i bet BN won do that because when they do they are not sacking you but DEDYING THE RIGHT OF SABAHAN!!!
ReplyDeleteDear fellow Malaysian, memang sudah terbukti kerajaan BN tentu saja banyak menyapu kes rasuah yang berlaku dalam negara kita ke bawah kapet dan kes-kes rasuah tersebut akan menjadi 'senjata'mereka jikalau ada yang cuba melawan/membantah seperti apa yang berlaku kepada Datuk Yong...
Pengarah ACA kata siasatan ke atas Datuk Yong tiada bermotif politik...hanya orang bodoh saja yang akan mempercayai apa kata nya...
anonymous 5.16pm
ReplyDeleteYou forgot to include Kurup in the play...Dia pun kuat minum tiga sapuluh tapi tidak mau bayar...Lukik butul.
Kurup : Aiya,Pairin, jangan lupa saya ahh..Ini kali saya tulung kau, nanti kau tulung saya bila kana bicara...VK, kau pun loyar kan? tulung sakap sama itu judge dulu...
PAIRIN : Aiya Kurup aka kurap.. ko tu da berkurap la, pasal tu Ko punya tampat Pensiangan ada banyak lihing la, apa mau minum 3 sipuluh lagi.. Nanti ko tu betambah kurap !
ReplyDeleteAh PEK : Gua lasa, kita semua olang bising2 pun talak guna ma...apa mau buat lagi? tunggu itu Anwar pun talak jadik punya...apa dia mau tunggu pun gua talak tau ma...olang semua bising2 pun dia talak buat apa2 ma...ini jam ah, itu BN memang talak bolih pircaya punya, itu PR pun talak bolih pircaya punya...kita semua olang mati sendili ma...apa mau susah...
The aftermath of the recent announcement of fuel increase and the endorsement by the 129 BN MP's in Parliament[the Sabah MP'S included] confirms their condescending personality.
ReplyDeleteTo Pairin,V.K.Liew and Joseph Kurup,i can only say this to you,"may you rot in hell".You will never deserve the respect from all generations to come.
To Pairin (PBS),V.K.Liew (LDP) and Joseph Kurup (PBRS),
ReplyDeleteTakniah kepada Ketua Pemimpin yang dari Sabah. Kamu akan jadi HERO di-Sabah tak lama lagi.
Rupa-nya kamu sudah kahwin dengan Orang KL. Selapas terima Post masing-masing, Sasaran and mindaan untuk Raykat Sabah Kamu sudah habis lupa.
Saya setuju dengan kata dari Ronnie "i can only say this to you, may you rot in hell.You will never deserve the respect from all generations of Sabah People to come".
SAPP keluar dari BN,siapa-siapa tak suka,balik negara sendiri,ini tanah melayu,hanya melayu sja wajib ketuanan melayu.(SABAH dan SARAWAK,melayunya kurang,pembangunan juga kurang.nasibnya juga kurang,rasuah juga kurang,sbb tu PM tak dapat melaksanakan permintaan sabah sarawak)terlalu kurang.tapi MP jgn dikurangkan.
ReplyDeleteIf u leave Malaysia then u have to join the Philippines.... bet u all be a great maid like those machai up north of sabah.... Don't forget in the Philippines constitution, Sabah is part of Philippines... the moment u leave Malaysia.. all FEDERAL MALAYSIA ARMY will leave Sabah soil.. let see how the Sabahan fight the MORO and Phillipines armies... better go sharpen your spear and relearn how to ride your kuda... Maybe Sabah could be the next Iraq or Afghanistan.. I heard the Bajau can really fight.. let see how how you fight nur mahsuri army.. hehe.. then u will come begging the federal Malaysia to intervene... think lah dimwit... think of the bigger picture... there is a reason why Sabah join the Federal Malaysia in the first place... If u never join Malaysia.. u probably part of Philippines... Do you want that, Sabahan?
ReplyDeletealalala pairin, kau bikin malu orang dusun saja, kau punya bola kana pigang dolah ka? sama saja kau sama si kurup... tukang angkat kaki.
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SAPP the timing is too late already. by this time, u had already screwed urself up and no turning away whatsoever. U shud have joined PR in the first place U wanted to vote what inconfidence vote bla bla bla. By doing NOTHING means that U ARE NOTHING now...
ReplyDeleteSo pathetic to see the fall of such a good party for sabah. Looks like we have to wait for the PR to help sabah now. byebye and rip sapp..
SAPP the timing is too late already. by this time, u had already screwed urself up and no turning away whatsoever. U shud have joined PR in the first place U wanted to vote what inconfidence vote bla bla bla. By doing NOTHING means that U ARE NOTHING now...
ReplyDeleteSo pathetic to see the fall of such a good party for sabah. Looks like we have to wait for the PR to help sabah now. byebye and rip sapp..
SAPP the timing is too late already. by this time, u had already screwed urself up and no turning away whatsoever. U shud have joined PR in the first place U wanted to vote what inconfidence vote bla bla bla. By doing NOTHING means that U ARE NOTHING now...
ReplyDeleteSo pathetic to see the fall of such a good party for sabah. Looks like we have to wait for the PR to help sabah now. byebye and rip sapp..
Just like the good old chinese saying..."screw up one chess move, and u're gone forever"
ReplyDeleteNever a better time and word to describe the situation sapp is facing now
cheers said...
ReplyDeleteooi, singapore got expelled from malaysia? are you sure? singapore wanted to leave. but that would have amounted to secession, which was illegal. but the idiots that ran our country than did not realise that expelling singapore also amount to secession.
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Expelling Singapore certainly proves there is no sacred inseparable bond among the component states of Malaysia. And Singapore leaving for any reason can be regarded as a de facto "secessin."
Illegal? What is illegal? Just because some idiots made up some laws doesn't mean something went against the rules it is illegal. Apartheid in S. Africa made it illegal to protest against unequal rights. But apartheid was itself illegal under the higher moral laws of universal human rights. It was illegal for slaves to run away from his master in early America. But slavery was itself illegal to the higher moral laws of civilized world. And the slaves were "freed" after the Civil War. Therefore, many immoral laws were made that were themselves immoral and illegal. And going against these immoral laws is not only moral and legal but it is the moral duty of all civilized people to break these immoral laws.
It is simply moronic to say that Singapore can be expelled but cannot secede. There must be some kind of consistency. If I can kick you out then it surely implies that you can also leave whenever you wish. In other words, either there is some sacred bond about a union which forbids separation for any reason or there is nothing sacred about the union and either party can terminate the union whenever he wished. Therefore, if one party can terminate the union then it proves that the uniion is not inseparable and any party can leave whenever he wished.
To demonstrate with another example, consider an employment. Either the employment cannot be separated or both the employer and the employee can choose to terminate the relationship. It is nonsense to say that the employer can kick out his employee but the employee cannot leave his employer. If the employer can kick out the employee, then surely the emplyee also has same right to leave his employer. The employer may not like this reasoning, but that is only justice. Therefore, by the same token, the mere fact that Singapore had left the federation proves that the federation is not inseparable. Therefore, any state of the federation has the right to leave whatever the laws of Malaysia may say because there is a higher moral law over the man-made laws of Malaysia.
Therefore, Sabah has the moral right to leave the federation which has been from the beginning nothing more than a colonial relationship. And if the Sabahans are smart, then they better leave before all their oil is gone. Then it'd be too late.
hardworking moron said:
ReplyDeleteIf u leave Malaysia then u have to join the Philippines.... bet u all be a great maid like those machai up north of sabah.... Don't forget in the Philippines constitution, Sabah is part of Philippines... the moment u leave Malaysia.. all FEDERAL MALAYSIA ARMY will leave Sabah soil.. let see how the Sabahan fight the MORO and Phillipines armies...
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Sabah can easily join Singapore. Or it can sign defence treaty with any number of countries such as China, US, Australia, etc. Did you see what happened when Australian troops landed in Indonesia? The Indonesian army just retreated. And if you think the Philippinos can fight the Australians, not to mention Americans, you're downright stupid.
As to Philippines, who cares about what their constitution say. If the Philippinos are strong enough, they'd have already taken over Sabah. How many Malaysian troops do you think there are in Sabah? Probably less a couple of thousands in all Sabah. Therefore, it is surely not the "powerful" Malaysian military that is detering the Philippinos from landing its army in Sabah. It is international politics that is preventing the Philippinos from attacking and "reclaiming" Sabah. Therefore, even if Sabah became independent tomorrow, the Philippinos will not dare attack Sabah because they will end up with sanctions from all the countries in the world. Not to mention getting bombed by powerful countris such as China and the US.
And with Sabah's natural wealth, it could easily deploy tens of thousands of troops to kill all Philippion invaders. The only way Philippines is going to invade Sabah is with cheap maids not to mention cheap prostitutes.
hardworking morons said:
ReplyDeletelet see how the Sabahan fight the MORO and Phillipines armies... better go sharpen your spear and relearn how to ride your kuda...
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It is obvious this moron doesn't know what he is talking about. Philippines is a deadbeat country with a per capita GDP of US$1.565 which is about 1/4 of Malaysia's already very low per capita GDP of some $6500. Philippino per capita GDP is even lower than Indonesia's $1,827. So what kind of military do you think such a defunct country can deploy?
Furthermore, Sabah's oil is being pumped by American oil companies. Do you think the Americans will sit and watch the Philippinos invade Sabah? You're a moron if you think so.
And lastly, once Sabah is independent, it could easily expand its economy to turn it into a dynamic economy with per capita GDP of US$10,000 or more. That means Sabah can deploy a small but powerful military to shoot down Philippino airforce jets and sink Philippino naval ships.
Moros and Philippino armies are a joke. They are good only for terrorizing unarmed civilians. Any well organized Sabahan army under Chinese leadership can easily defeat these jokers. And in case the hardworking moron has forgotten. Wars aren't fought with parangs anymore. They're now fought with advanced jet fighters such as Raptor and Su-32. And Philippino jet fighter pilots are even more incompetent than Malay fighter pilots. Sabah's Chinese jet fighter pilots can shoot down Philippino fighter jets like fish in a barrel and sink Philippino naval ships before they can even see Sabah on the horizon.
I'd like to see Philippinos invade Sabah. We'll capture them and use them for houseboys or gardeners. Maybe that's what they want to be in the first place. They can at least earn more than $1,500 in Sabah than in the Philippines. Actually, wages in the Philipinnes is much lower than $1,500. It is more likely less than $1,000. So these Moros fighters will land and surrender and become servants of rich Sabahan Chinese.
Ya ya...like we have a lot of "jet fighters" and "armory" or even "GUNS" by CHINESE in SABAH... dun put up such dumb comment if u dun even understand how sabah's population structure is like.
ReplyDeleteThe chinese population here is not more than what? 10%? 15%?! and no one i mean not 1 chinese boy/man/old cunts are trained to even take up a parang! whatmore GUNS?! JET FIGHTER?!??!! u must be imagining urself that sabah is singapore.. which is not.
Who will care about sabah if we are invaded by philipines? US? OZ? no way mate.
y would US help us when they can have deals with philipinos after they invaded sabah to get more oil and cheaper price after helping THEM?
y would OZ help us when we re not even INDONESIAN!!??!?! they only help indonesian becoz it's their neighbour, they dun want the fkwit of indonesian refugees swump into their country.
The only help that we might get, is probably from brunei, but it's for their own good so that sabahan refugees are not swamping into brunei.
Sabahan is not ready for a war, not even a skirmish. imagine...the military can't even put off ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from swimming and using sampan to get into here, LEFT ALONE ARMIES?!?!?
The best chance we have is to either join pact with Brunei, or singapore. singapore is geographically too far. The best chance is for us to join pact with Brunei.
Some scummy idiot said:
ReplyDeleteYa ya...like we have a lot of "jet fighters" and "armory" or even "GUNS" by CHINESE in SABAH... dun put up such dumb comment if u dun even understand how sabah's population structure is like.
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"We?" You're Sabahan? Not bloody likely! Only you know who you are. But you're not Sabahan.
Join with Brunei and ask help from Brunei? What idiocy is this? This moron clearly doesn't know that Brunei has a population of only 381,000. How is a population of 381,000 going to protect a population of almost 3 million or more? Also the total GDP of Brunei is only some $12 billion. Sabah's oil income alone is bigger than $12 billion. Provided, of course, that Sabah can control its oil income. And Sabah has vast oil palm industry and other agricultural industries with a total acreage of more than 3 million acres with total value of output at some $10 billion or more. With a proper economic policy, Sabah's GDP could easily grow 5 times or more within 10 years and become several times bigger than the entire Brunei economy.
The Chinese population of Sabah is officially listed as 10% or some 300,000 or so of a total Sabahan population of some 3 million. So the Chinese population of Sabah is not too much less than the total Brunei population. And I'd bet the Chinese are a lot smarter than the Brunei people who are some 70% Malays. And everybody knows how smart the Malays are or not.
In 1963 the Chinese population was around 200,000. So after 45 years, the Chinese population has grown only 100,000 or some 50%. This is the slowest rate of growth of any Chinese population anywhere in the world. It is obvious that there has been a huge migration out of Sabah by the Chinese. And the Chinese emigration is still continuing. This is due to the hopelessness of the Chinese as they look at their future in Sabah.
It is also clear that the Chinese are the most intelligent and economically dynamic sector of the population in Sabah. Without the Chinese nothing can be done in Sabah. This is why the KDM need the Chinese. Without the Chinese the KDM would be even worse off than either the Indonesians and the Philippinos.
The reason why the Chinese are not in the police and the military now is obviously due to the deliberate racial cleansing policy of the UMNO Malays. But once Sabah is out of Malaysia, the Chinese can quickly take over the administration of the country including the police and the military. The Chinese can provide a few hundred airforce personells to man a couple dozen Raptors to knock down Philippino jet fighters. The KDM can provide the bulk of the troops with Chinese officers. A powerful force of 10,000 troops can easily be deployed to kill all invaders be they from the Philippines or Indonesia.
Furthermore, an influx of immigration of Chinese can be encouraged to cancel out the millions of illegal immigrants from Indonesia and the Philippines. When the Chinese population reached over 1 million, then the country can really take off in economic growth to make Sabah one of the richest countries in SE Asia that would benefit all peoples in Sabah.
And idiots who think Philippinos can invade Sabah armed with parangs and spears are such indiots they are practically monkeys. Maybe they grew up with the Orang hutans.
Some scummy idiot said:
ReplyDeleteYa ya...like we have a lot of "jet fighters" and "armory" or even "GUNS" by CHINESE in SABAH... dun put up such dumb comment if u dun even understand how sabah's population structure is like.
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Back in 1963, the police force of Sabah was staffed with mostly Chinese officers. All the inspectors, superintendents, etc. were all Chinese. The lower rank coppers were Malays or some kind of natives. Also, the military was led by Chinese officers who were the generals and the colonels. It was only after "independence" that the Chinese got eliminated from the police and the military.
Can the Chinese fight? You bet your life we can. Don't you know that the Chinese even beat the Americans in Korea? You think the Philippinos are going to be a problem for the Chinese? Only a stupid monkey will think so. With the proper motivation and the weapons, the Chinese can beat anybody in the world.
Ever heard of Sun Zhi?
ReplyDeleteIf BN dare to remove SAPP, they already removed us but I wonder the sabah component parties like PBS, LDP and PBRS are still licking umno ball to embarass the Sabahans.
ReplyDeleteIf you guys are sincere to fight for the rakyat, please speak the truth and not living in the state of denial and be a hypocrite.
We really need a true leader from Sabah who sincerely to fight for our Sabahan rights and grievances and NEVER KOW-TOW to the evil man with selfish intention!
SAPP Api Api Branch
All the idiotic ranting of the stupid troll to the contrary notwithstanding, there is no reason why Philippines would want to destabilize the peace of the region to reclaim Sabah that it obviously has no hope of accomplishing. The best interest of the Philippines can be served by establishing a peaceful and mutually profitable relationship in which trade, commerce and investment can take place. This will benefit Philippine people much better than outright reclaiming Sabah which it will never be able to do anyway.
ReplyDeleteIf the Philippines invaded Sabah, then it will quickly turn it into just another part of Philippines because Sabah will quickly become just as poor as any other part of Philippines. Then where is the advantage of taking on a piece of land that has no economic benefit? Therefore, taking over Sabah will not benefit Philippines but establishing a friendly relationship will.
I hope the Philippines government is smarter than the jungle monkey who thinks Philippinos can invade and take over Sabah just by walking in or swimming in with parangs between their teeth.
Back in 1963,the police force of Sabah was staffed with mostly Chinese officers....In 1963,the Chinese population was around 200,000. So after 45 years, the Chinese population has grown only 100,000 or some 50%...... Bla Bla Bla....
ReplyDeleteNo one needs u to tell about history here. Halo? in 1963??
Russia is still a communist...They almost had war with US. How bout now? Chinese can fight off anyone? well ya, that is in the age of "cavalry age" when the Mongols are ruling from Pacific ocean to Hungary.
Y dun u addon and mentioned that in history, Chinese(in China) also fought off a lot enemies? Eg, Han Dynasty saw the defeat of mighty xiong nu by Han emporor...during the Song dynasty they fought off the qi tan, jing, as well as xi xia? And not too long ago(near to ur 1963...) they just fought off the japanese which slaughtered millions in malaya and SE asia (and mostly chinese).
However...the main differences are:
1. It's Capitalism age now. Everything is about money and Chinese, no matter oversea or in China, are brought up to be believing that scoring good marks in exam is everything, bcoz u can find a good job/do a good business and u r rich and u r everything.
Who cares about war/battle? That's so 1950s (ya near to ur 1963).
Boys nowadays can't even pick up and stick and hit straight..
Start argue with me on this, bcoz in ur previous reply u skipped this point.
2. They are from China...(obviously). which when they r chinese, but not from china, they r slaughtered (in Malaya). Did they oppose? HELL YEAH. ask communist in Malaya. and what they got in return? BLOODY TRAITOR BLOODY COMMUNIST, and get slaughtered back again by English Malay ruling government.
3. The army of These Major Warfare are made up of Chinese and purely Chinese only. (the army of 1 nation, doesn't include army of other nation)
3. They have weapon. (obviously). and the weapon armories are supplied by their government. So u think our "government" will support us with weapons when we are to fight with philippines to get INDEPENDENCE?
Even now u ask me where can i get parang i also dunno. MOREOVER GUNS?! ROCKETS?! U think u're in DIE HARD 4 or RAMBO ah? or maybe u r hoping for TRANSFORMERS to come and fight a war for u.
4. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT. ALTHOUGH IN SOME OF THESE CRITICAL TIME WHEN CHINESE (IN CHINA) ARE FACING DEAD OR ALIVE SITUATION, THE PEOPLE/ NORMAL CITIZENS ARE BEHIND THE SOLDIERS!! (THE EMPORER MIGHT NOT/ OR NOT WILLING TO). WHY? BCOZ THERE ARE ONLY 1 RACE THERE!
for 10% population of 1 race to fight against an invasion, not knowing the rest of the 90% of civilian will support/backstabbing u, is purely idiotic. let say...there are 50% of these populations are illegal immigrants of philipinoys and indons, which side do u think they r standing with? "U? BLOODY CHINESE WHO R ALWAYS SO RICH AND SUPPERIOR OVER ME? ALWAYS TRYING TO SEND ME BACK TO MINDANAO BUT YET HIRE ME AS MAID AND BULLY ME? or my people's army that speaks the same language as me? "
As one was saying "Chinese can quickly take over the administration of the country including the police and the military", I have doubts on that...
How does a race of 10% population can take over an administration and police and military while all these departments are HUGELY 99% hold by bumis? Malay, Kadazan, Dusun or whatever, phillipinoys also maybe. This comment just shows that u r imagining the chinese here as like Whites in South Africa or Whites in OZ. It's different. They had the superiority over the locals not by how rich they are, how smart they are, BUT BY HOW ADVANCED THEIR ARMORY WAS COMPARED TO THE LOCAL, AND HOW MUCH ARMORY THEY HAD IN COMPARISON TO THAT OF THE LOCALS.
come back from ur 1963, and live in today. if all chinese does like what u said, we would all have been slaughtered by that time. Conflict or confrontation is inevitable, but we still need intelligence to make ourselves prepare for it. By bonding relationship with other countries with supperior armory/willing to help, or by having a sense of emergency in mind by all individual. example, the winning of chinese against occupation of japan relied much on intervention of western countries and soviet. if US didn't join the war, and soviet didn't guard hold their eastern part, China would had had dawned at 1942 or less.
Fighting off enermy by thinking they are supperior(by no reason?) and they can take over the police and military in a blink of an eye (BY WHAT??!?!) is purely imaginary.
no one can fight off enemies by thinking back on histories or reminding on how rich they are.
All the idiotic ranting of the stupid troll to the contrary notwithstanding, there is no reason why Philippines would want to destabilize the peace of the region to reclaim Sabah that it obviously has no hope of accomplishing. The best interest of the Philippines can be served by establishing a peaceful and mutually profitable relationship in which trade, commerce and investment can take place. This will benefit Philippine people much better than outright reclaiming Sabah which it will never be able to do anyway.
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I agree with the statement that there is no interest for phillipines to claim back a land which is richer and make it to becoming a poor land like anywhere else in philippines. BUT, that is if they think in front of their citizens...i bet no phillipinoys citizens would want to lose such a great place for earning money beside home.
BUT POLITICIANS DON'T CONSIDER AND THINK FOR THEIR CITIZENS. ESPECIALLY THE ONE FROM PHILLIPINES!!!!!! if they think for their citizens, phillipines wouldn't be a poor country(at least poorer) than us. WHAT WOULD BE THEIR BEST INTEREST NONE OTHER THAN HAVING A RESOURSEFUL LAND BACK WITH THE CLAIM OF SULTAN SULU, AND EARN SOME DWIGGLINGGG JICKELLINGGGG OIL MONEY FROM IT?????!?!!!?!?!?!?
by having their phillipinoys citizens coming here to work and settle down is like hitting three birds with 1 TOOTHPICK.
1. if they can't reclaim sabah back, they dun need to care about so many poor southeners of their country.
2. if one day they want to claim it back, have a refurendum, philipinoys in sabah might help to bring back sabah to them.
3. if one day, army was deploy to sabah, phillipinoys people in sabah can help by giving them weapons and fight.
GREAT, what a wise move by their government. hope ours are that smart too.
sabah adalah negeri asal usul turun temurun nenek moyang kami(kadazan dusun murut)kami bukan rumpun dari fhilippine..bukan rumpun dari indon..dan bukan rumpun china...tapi saya risau dgan kehadiran pendatang ni..lama kelamaan munkin kita (kdm)akan jadi rakyat menoriti di negeri asal usul sendiri..hanya simbol sahaja pada tarian..tiada kuasa politik kerana lemah dan berpecah..hari ni kita tak berusaha untuk negeri kita jangan menyesal hari esok bila terlambat...fikir fikirlah untuk anak cucu cicit..mahukah anda lihat kita(KDM)terus miskin...
ReplyDeleteUMNO =Ketuanan Melayu
ReplyDeleteSAPP = Rakyat Sabah adalah tuan kerajaan.
UMNO = jilat pant*t PM
SAPP = Kaseh PM tisu paper
UMNO = ISU PTI dilengah masa
SAPP = Dateline August 2008
UMNO = menyokong usul harga barang naik
SAPP = no vote
UMNO = kekalkan 5% royalty
SAPP = naik royaltu ke 20%
UMNO = Ketua di semenanjung
SAPP = Ketua diantara kita
sejarah apa???ada bukti kukuh??yang kami(KDM)dari china??jangan cakap bukti kan...hakikatnya kami(KDM)orang asli sabah...uji DNA lah...kaji dari sudut bahasa pun tak sama...tetapi..orang cina bahasa cinanya sama dari china..bahasa bajau sabah pun ada sama dengan bahasa bajau filippine...dan juga bahasa indon..ni buktinya...
ReplyDeleteLets get out from malaysia
ReplyDeleteNo use 'jadi begger di nereri sendiri
@ tak cukup makan
@ BN tida serius menangani isu Cheap Labour PTI.Kalau boleh nak tambah lagi.
Boring-Boring
Jadi pemimpin BN untuk dapat BK, BSK ADK sahaja.
Pairin cuma mau kejar SMN @ Tun saja.
I dont know. DUlu dia OK sekarang kurang OK. Kenapa ya? Please lah Pairin. Kasi Anti-Brain wash sama itu kepala. We still want u.
All UMNO JKK cuma JKK mau kejar projek, bukan kasimaju kampung.
Semua suda Lusak. Itu Be End tara guna suda. Guna untuk buat kayu api loo.
In our beloved country, many people in UMNO also expressed no-confidence in the UMNO president. some asked him to step down but nothing happened to them, no disciplinary action, no expell, no suspense.But when a non-UMNO spoke against PM. They screamed for action to be taken against that person or that party. Does not matter what was the contribution of that party in nation building or whether what they said is the truth. No one else has got the right to speak against UMNO leaders. Sadly the other BN parties sang the chorus. Sabah is DOOMED when Sabah based-BN parties are the ones trying to kill another Sabah party for voicing up for the people. They have sold for BIRTHRIGHT in exchange for a bow of soup.
ReplyDeleteIn our beloved country, many people in UMNO also expressed no-confidence in the UMNO president. some asked him to step down but nothing happened to them, no disciplinary action, no expell, no suspense.But when a non-UMNO spoke against PM. They screamed for action to be taken against that person or that party. Does not matter what was the contribution of that party in nation building or whether what they said is the truth. No one else has got the right to speak against UMNO leaders. Sadly the other BN parties sang the chorus. Sabah is DOOMED when Sabah based-BN parties are the ones trying to kill another Sabah party for voicing up for the people. They have sold for BIRTHRIGHT in exchange for a bow of soup.
ReplyDeletegong is same is orang cina jual kasi kami bodoh...who say sabah don have orang asli??u know??how old are u 200year old..who say sabah empty u know kah bodoh....u know kah?? lancau kau suda cucuk di bumi sabah 200tahun sudah sampai ni sabah empty pun u tau..lancau kau pun suda cucuk d korea 200tahun sudakah sampai korea datang dari cina u pun tau...
ReplyDeletemacam u know???jangan cakap bukti kan...bukan cakap bukti...kalau lancau kau sudah cucuk d bumi sabah ni sudah 200tahun saya percaya lah...otk babi
ReplyDeleteA prior poster said:
ReplyDelete"by having their phillipinoys citizens coming here to work and settle down is like hitting three birds with 1 TOOTHPICK.
1. if they can't reclaim sabah back, they dun need to care about so many poor southeners of their country.
2. if one day they want to claim it back, have a refurendum, philipinoys in sabah might help to bring back sabah to them.
3. if one day, army was deploy to sabah, phillipinoys people in sabah can help by giving them weapons and fight.
"GREAT, what a wise move by their government. hope ours are that smart too."
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It is obviously advantageous for Philippinos to enter Sabah by the millions illegally to take up jobs and eventually become citizens. The UMNO government has been playing into the hands of the Philippinos by giving them citizenship without any conditions while denying even permanent residence to the Chinese who have lived for decades in Sabah and are multi-millionaires and contributed much to the development of Sabah.
The objective of UMNO is to make sure that Sabah will remain dominated by the Muslims. But in the end, as this poster said, Sabay may end up becoming Indonesian or Philippines territory. So the "clever" plan of the Malays will turn out to be very stupid.
In fact, there is no hope for either Philippines or Indonesia to successfully invade Sabah because either will not allow the other to grab Sabah. That is to say, if Philippines invaded Sabah, then Indonesia wil protest and enter the war to kick out Philipines. And if Indonesia invaded Sabah, Philippines will protest and enter the war to kick out Indonesia.
Furthermore, both Philippines and Indonesia are both faced with internal rebellions. There are many Muslims in southern Philippines who want to be independent from the Philippines. And there are many Indonesians in many parts of Indonesia who want to be independent from Indonesia. Therefore, given their internal problems, neither of them is in any position to invade Sabah.
And lastly, the invasion will inevitably be bloody and costly. And in the end, the invasion will fail and their own people will revolt and split up their own country.
For these and many other reasons such as China and Singapore intervening which will make America and UN intervene.
In the end, the only way that either Philippine and Indonesia can invade Sabah is by sending in millions of their people to become citizens. And UMNO is stupidly making the silent invasion possible.
This makes it even more urgent for Sabah to become independent so that a Chinese-KDM government can put a stop to this insidious invasion. Otherwise, the consequences are dire.
to IDIOT orang ulu tomani ::::
ReplyDeleteHowever, the “when and how” tale of their arrival in Sabah, and the larger part of Borneo, remains sketchy. The discovery of human remains in the Niah Caves of neighbouring Sarawak, however, show that the island of Borneo was inhabited as early as 38,000BC. The Kadazan Dusuns are generally be part of a drift of peoples out of southern China, belonging to Proto-Malay stock
READ THIS BY YOUR OWN FROM
http://allmalaysia.info/msiaknow/ethnicity/kadazandusun_ethnicity.asp
IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OWN MOYANG FROM WHERE ALSO DUNNOOOOO !!!!!!! BIKIN MALU !!!!
http://allmalaysia.info/msiaknow/ethnicity/kadazandusun_ethnicity.asp
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sabahtravelguide.com/mapguide/default.asp?page=monsopiad_kadazan
ReplyDeleteIDOIT !!!!!!!!!!! Bikin malu!
Stupid scum said:
ReplyDeleteNo one needs u to tell about history here. Halo? in 1963??
Russia is still a communist...
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There is no point to waste my time with this moron anymore. I've provided reasons why the Philippines cannot successfully invade Sabah militarily but will have a very good chance to invade Sabah with millions of illegal immigrants and then having them become citizens courtesy of UMNO racists.
I will just say this scum seems out to denigrate the Chinese. His arguments are nothing more than sophistry based on twisted and unsupported logic. For example, he argued that since the Chinese value higher education and have diligent work ethics, therefore they are cowards and will not dare to fight. Frankly, Singapore military are highly educated which make them very efficient in using high tech weapons systems which stupid uneducated Philippinos obvious are incompetent to use. This is the same with the high tech Taiwan military as well as the increasingly high tech Chinese military. Therefore, the argument of this moron that the higher education of the Chinese in Sabah will make them cowardly and unable to fight is simply sophistry and illogical. The higher education of the Sabah Chinese will only make them highly efficient in using high tech weapon systems such as missiles and fighter jets that will efficiently knock down Philipinno jets and sink Philippino naval ships.
As this is a free board anybody can say whatever he wishes. I leave it up to the other people to judge for themselves. I only demean myself wasting my time with a stupid troll.
A prior poster said:
ReplyDeleteHowever, the “when and how” tale of their arrival in Sabah, and the larger part of Borneo, remains sketchy. The discovery of human remains in the Niah Caves of neighbouring Sarawak, however, show that the island of Borneo was inhabited as early as 38,000BC. The Kadazan Dusuns are generally be part of a drift of peoples out of southern China, belonging to Proto-Malay stock
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There is a good article in Scientific American in the July issue on the use of DNA to track human migration. It is highly interesting and would repay reading. According to this article, humans migrated out of Africa some 50,000 years ago and entered Asia in several waves.
Here is another article about Sabah's prehistory. Essentially, the Mongoloid peoples of Sabah - the KDM - entered Sabah around 5,000 years ago. The Chinese were here as early as Tang Dynasty in 700 AD. The Chinese also established a "principality" "somewhere along the Kinabatangan River."
The earlier humans in Sabah who were there around 35,000 years ago were probably the same as the Australian aborigines.
http://www.angelfire.com/
nb/cyrilmasuil/history.html
I will just say this scum seems out to denigrate the Chinese. His arguments are nothing more than sophistry based on twisted and unsupported logic. For example, he argued that since the Chinese value higher education and have diligent work ethics, therefore they are cowards and will not dare to fight. Frankly, Singapore military are highly educated which make them very efficient in using high tech weapons systems which stupid uneducated Philippinos obvious are incompetent to use. This is the same with the high tech Taiwan military as well as the increasingly high tech Chinese military. Therefore, the argument of this moron that the higher education of the Chinese in Sabah will make them cowardly and unable to fight is simply sophistry and illogical. The higher education of the Sabah Chinese will only make them highly efficient in using high tech weapon systems such as missiles and fighter jets that will efficiently knock down Philipinno jets and sink Philippino naval ships.
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Ya u gave GREAT ARGUMENTS on how to prove ur idea right. great with "". but what i see is u just try to use words like "moron" "scum" to describe the other arguer. if so the case, u r no difference from those malay who protested "chinese shud go back to tong shan, since u guys are scum". eh...what's the argument there? becoz u r scum, so u lose??
come on...u r not in the pasar or street trying to quarrel with ppl, which when u use bad words ppl will be scared of u? arguments are arguments, if u r right then u r right. if u can fight off my arguments then just leave it there (just like what u did)
Now back to ur argument... u said singapore military, taiwanese military, china military r strong. true i agree there are strong. BUT READ BACK MY PREVIOUS ARGUMENT, what are the main points that makes them strong??
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3. The army of These Major Warfare are made up of Chinese and purely Chinese only. (the army of 1 nation, doesn't include army of other nation)
3. They have weapon. (obviously). and the weapon armories are supplied by their government. So u think our "government" will support us with weapons when we are to fight with philippines to get INDEPENDENCE?
Even now u ask me where can i get parang i also dunno. MOREOVER GUNS?! ROCKETS?! U think u're in DIE HARD 4 or RAMBO ah? or maybe u r hoping for TRANSFORMERS to come and fight a war for u.
4. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT. ALTHOUGH IN SOME OF THESE CRITICAL TIME WHEN CHINESE (IN CHINA) ARE FACING DEAD OR ALIVE SITUATION, THE PEOPLE/ NORMAL CITIZENS ARE BEHIND THE SOLDIERS!! (THE EMPORER MIGHT NOT/ OR NOT WILLING TO). WHY? BCOZ THERE ARE ONLY 1 RACE THERE!
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ok singapore military doesn't just make up of just chinese soldiers. BUT THEIR GOVERNMENT ARE!! it's all dam chinese. and malay and indian in singapore are adapting themselves, so that they can get into the chinese society. becoz the whole society there is based on chinese race. that is the country which can be said theoritically built on 1 race only.
back to our sabah, now...who had seen/heard/mentioned about any of ur chinese frens/brothers/relatives who joined the army. dun say the army...police?? i bet like what? 1 in 10,000? throw a stone out ur window, the chance of it hitting a bird is higher than to find a chinese in military/police, not just sabah! but the whole malaysia.
It's not about how strong mentally that we want to win a battle, or how bad we want it... firstly U HAVE TO HAVE THE FOUNDATIONS TO WIN IT!!!!
for example, everyone wants to be a millionare. but does everyone gets to be one? NO! u need to have the foundations to be one! Mentally strong is part of it, but most importantly, capital, charisma, ur interpersonal skill....etc...
What more when we r not taking about gettin rich/being a good student. we are talking about having a war for christ sake.
oh, no weapons, no tanks, no air force, no warships, and u expect a race of such in sabah can win a war?
maybe readers here may confuse y would i say a race? BCOZ THAT WAS WHAT U SAID PREVIOUSLY!! CHINESE CAN TAKE OVER THE ADMINISTRATION AND MILITARY AND POLICE IN A BLINK OF AN EYE AFTER WE GAINED INDEPENDENCE. AGAIN...ARGUE, BY WHAT? BY HOW?
BY DREAMING ABOUT HOW GOOD OUR HISTORY ARE? HOW RICH A RACE IS? NO!
i am not saying chinese r cowards! in fact i never use this word in my arguement whatsoever. In my previous arguement, i mentioned, in order to fight a war/conflict/confrontation,one need to prepare for it. mentally, physically, constitutionally, and most importantly, EQUIP WITH WEAPONS FOR CHRIST SAKE. how r we going to do that? only by bonding with another stronger nation, or by preparing ourselves if we do have the abilities.
If chinese r cowards, then i wouldn't be proud of KMT that fights the japanese to ground, alto not knowing what the outcome is going to be. chinese r never coward. but no one, no race, can go into a war they r not physically, mentally, constitutionally prepared. Even china during the 20's, took 10 years after finishing all the warlords ard china, to prepare for an invasion by japanese.
if everyone has the sense of emergency(which i doubt the politicans have), we r not scared of any intruder. Just like singapore, y their military is so strong? becoz they are scared! they are scared that one day malaysia is going over their border and take it back!! ask any singaporean, they will tell u the same thing. What they learnt in army for 2 years, are purely on how to conquer back malaysia, and prevent malaysia from intruding them. y i know? bcoz i worked in singapore for 2 years. and most of my frens are singaporeans when i studied oversea.
Arguments are backed by facts, and giving examples. not by "scums" "moron" , or how good u scold at ppl. That is just aunty from pasar.
Now i see why people say sabahan are very smart people... IRAQ HAVE ALOT OF OIL, how come still cannot fight american armies? Iraq armies have tank, missile and gun. Sabahan got blow pipe and spear... how u wanna fight lah? even with old plane... Phillipines army can easily capture Sabah... Do u know The phillipine government have military alliance with Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and MOST IMPORTANT THE USA? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Philippines). Btw to buy gun and plane need time... u think u got such time? do you think the invader will give you such time? China and Brunei will never help you.. with one less claimant to the Spartly Islands (Malaysia) thing will be easily for the remaining claimant. Bodoh lah you all... i ingat u will debate with me with brain... but u debate with me with your ass.... didn't even do your research. bodoh!.. btw do you know malaysia navy have three major base in Sabah? TLDM Sandakan, Sabah
ReplyDeleteTLDM Semporna, Sabah, TLDM Sepanggar, Sabah (HQ Naval Region II)(Scorpene Subamarine). Do have a good night sleep every night? I guess so cause Federal Malaysia Navy is protecting you from foreign invader.. you ungraceful scum... Even Federal Malaysia ELITE FORMATION THE PASKAL (equal with the SEAL) IS BASED IN SABAH and the SECOND BATTALION OF ROYAL RANGER REGIMENT(Osiou oh kamanang)IS BASED IN SABAH... so what u wanna say my fren? The Federal Government of Malaysia spend so much money to protect your ungraceful sabahan for what(even spend money to buy submarine)? which government in the world will do that? do u see the Serbia put there most expensive military asset to guard the kosovo? do u think the People Republic of China will put there best main battle tank in Tibetan people hand? i don't think so... only in Federation of Malaysia we do that... cause we trust you guys over there and treat you as a fellow Malaysian (hence we even give you special Bumiputra right) and i believe Kadazan, Bajau or what ever bangsa in Sabah are not born traitor and tidak kenal budi right? Please see the big picture and please evaluate the geopolitik of this region before you open your stupid mouth..
The current politician of Sabah are traitor of their forefather... There must be a reason why you forefather choose to join Malaysia. So Why do Sabah joined the Federation of Malaysia? Do most Sabahan know that? Tell me... i want to learn from my esteem fellow citizen across the South China Sea..
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ReplyDeleteYa u gave GREAT ARGUMENTS on how to prove ur idea right. great with "". but what i see is u just try to use words like "moron" "scum" to describe the other arguer. if so the case, u r no difference from those malay who protested "chinese shud go back to tong shan, since u guys are scum". eh...what's the argument there? becoz u r scum, so u lose??
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I call a scum a scum. I've expressed my approval to those posters who have made good logical posts. You're just a scum with nothing worthy of praise. In fact you're clearly a troll who is here only to insult the Chinese.
Here is another one of your deliberate scum logic. When the Malays try to racially cleanse the Chinese out of Malaysia and Sabah by accusing them of taking unfair advantage of the natives, they are in fact lying because it is the Chinese who have created all the wealth in Malaysia. I only call scums like you scum when you've proven yourself a trollish scum who spout lies and insults.
I will not respond to other nonsense about war with the Philippines because that is off topic and I'm sure SAPP will not appreciate people filling up this board with irrelevant clutters.
Alah apo kamu urang susah hati...
ReplyDeleteAmbil petua ni sudahlah..
Semua pemimpin sabah bersatulah... lawan KL baru baguslah.. kita pinta kemerdekaan lah..jadi Negara Sabah lah lagi bagus...Tanah Melayu tu untuk orang melayu yang pemalas...Sabah untuk sabah... sarawak untuk sarawaklah barulah bagus.. masing masing punya tahulah..
Tengok siapa buli maju ..
Orang cina maju kah , orang dusun majukah , oranh iban majukah atau orang melayu masih dengan hutang keliling pinggangkah.. atau orang lain dah maju..
The faster the better.
ReplyDeleteKita tidak tahu apa dalam fikiran si Pairin. Saya berfikiran positif bahawa Pairin mungkin ingin melihat kesan domino pemergian parti-parti dalam komponen BN keluar. Dengan keluarnya SAPP dari BN, maka bermulalah tindakan untuk membentuk satu kerajaan baru yang mungkin lebih berkesan dan sensitif dengan kehendak kita di Sabah. Saya percaya jauh di hati si Pairin, keinginannya masih kuat untuk melihat 20 perkara, 20% minyak dan hak hak lain, dikotakan dan dihormati oleh kerajaan pusat. Beliau tahu benar bahawa BN sekarang memang tidak akan menghormati permintaan permintaan tersebut yang pernah dilaung-laungkan sendiri oleh Pairin beberapa tahun dahulu.
Selepas SAPP ditendang keluar, kita tahu penyokong BN akan mengurang di Sabah. Namun begitu BN pusat tidak mudah untuk memecat SAPP begitu sahaja. Mereka akan menggunakan gertakan dan ugutan dahulu sebelum tindakan terakhir dibuat.
Diharapkan si Pairin ini bersih tidak bercela, supaya bulan hadapan bila PBS keluar BN, beliau tidak akan didakwa oleh BPR. Saya rasa lebih ramai penyokong PBS sekiranya PBS keluar dari BN memandangkan PBS begitu tidak berkesan dan tidak bersuara dalam kerajaan.
Jangan kita bertelaga tentang hak empunya negeri Sabah. Tanah ini kosong selepas Tuhan menciptakannya. Tuhan tidak mengatakan tanah ini khas untuk satu kaum tertentu. Namun ada di antara kita yang berasa lebih berhak, kemungkinan kerana mereka tiba awal di pulau ini. Kalau kita percaya teori Darwin, bolehlah kita mengatakan bangsa kita sudah berada di pulau ini semenjak ia dicipta kerana kemungkinan kita berasal diari BERUK.
Walaubagaimanapun kita seharusnya sama-sama bersatu untuk menghalau pendatang-pendatang baru dari negara lain, yang datang secara haram dan mengancam keselamatan dan ketentraman negeri kita.
Harga minyak di negara pengeluar minyak seperti Malaysia
ReplyDeleteUAE RM1.19/litre
Eygpt RM1.03/litre
Bahrain RM0.87/litre
Qatar RM0.68/litre
Kuwait RM0.67/litre
Saudi Arabia RM0.38/litre
IranRM0.35/litre
Nigeria RM0.32/litre
Turkmenistan RM0.25/litre
Venezuela RM0.16/litre
Brunei RM 1.20/litre
MALAYSIA RM2.70/litre =(RM2.70 x 159 litres = US $ 135.00 international price. so where is subsidy???)
So, Malaysian people are fooled by the govt...
MALAYSIA BOLEH !!!
Imagine a MP from BN calling these three "3 stooges" and reported in the news...why? because they really are! being used by KL to do the licking job!
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