Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Anwar vs Shabery Debate on Fuel Price

"Anwar's explanations were simple, clear and up to the point. Shabery was no match for Anwar. It is a shame for Shabery to touch on personal issues when he could not answer the questions posed to him." quoted from Malaysiakini


    'Who was the real winner? The people!'
    Jul 16, 08 1:00pm
    ‘Both sides should be applauded for having the public debate. It is nothing short of an historical event and a significant milestone in Malaysian politics.’

    On Anwar vs Shabery in historic debate
    LS Kong: Who was the winner? The people! Both sides should be applauded for having the public debate and for their performances.
    It is nothing short of an historical event and a significant milestone in Malaysian politics as we venture down the path to becoming a more matured democracy.
    We the people need to encourage more such open political debates, but with more substance on policies than personal attacks, in the future.
    While the BN government is obviously not yet comfortable with letting the greater masses see the debate on uncensored live telecast - one's level of maturity to handle such political debates is gauged by one's ability/inclination to install paid TV - but it is a major step forward nonetheless.
    Hurrah to all! Malaysia Boleh!
    Lim Teck Ghee: DSAI emerged as the clear winner in this debate. He was substantive and in command of the facts and figures - to the extent that the short period allocated to both speakers permitted.
    Just as important, he focused on the issue and made a convincing case that the oil price increase was excessive, poorly planned and badly executed. What was impressive was that he was gracious and did not seek to over-demonise the government for the policy mis-step but called for its correction.
    Information Minister Shabery Cheek, unfortunately, used much of his time casting aspersions on Anwar's past record. In contrast to Anwar who appeared gracious and courteous, Shabery came across as a hectoring politician intent on scoring political points by making personal attacks and not debating the issue.
    While he attempted to analyse the rationale behind the government’s action, he also tied himself up in knots - by claiming for example that the oil price increase would help reduce inflationary pressure in the economy - a point that Anwar was quick to pounce on.
    Towards the end of the debate, the minister pointed out that the fact that the debate was being held was testimony to the openness of the present government.
    It is hoped that the outcome of the debate - an apparent victory by the opposition over the government spokesman -will not result in the government clamping down on similar public policy debates on vital matters affecting Malaysians.
    A Star Is Born: Cringe did I when I first heard news of the Anwar vs Shabery debate. I pictured either a massive reaming for the BN speaker or a repeat Syed Hamid's fumbling buffoonery a la ‘Hard Talk’.
    In fact I didn't want to watch but was dragged in front of the telly. All day the general feeling was that Shabery was going to get creamed because Anwar is probably the best and most charismatic speaker in Malaysian politics today. Sort of like watching David vs. Goliath.
    My frown though, soon turned into a smile as Shabery began his rebuttal and by the end of the debate I was clapping enthusiastically at the TV. He wasn't as eloquent as Anwar but he was confident, calm, concise and even managed to crack a joke or two.
    Most importantly, he was never rattled and could deliver his points (though I would suggest a glass of water or a tissue for him the next time).
    Honestly, Anwar won as far as public speaking and showmanship went. That, after all, is his strong point. But on facts and actual answers to the questions put forward, Shabery came out on top.
    I'm sure by populist vote Anwar would be the winner but even in that event, his supporters have to admit that it was far from a landslide victory.
    Yeap Cheng Liang: Before we judge which side won the debate, we have to look at their original objective.
    For Shabery, the objective is to defend government's move on fuel price rise and to win over the so called independents/sceptics. On this, Shabery failed.
    Those who are sceptical remain sceptical. And I think he didn't even win over Anwar's sceptics. What he did was just repeating what you can read in the mainstream media, nothing new.
    Whereas Anwar has done a good job in recommending many measures to justify his proposal.
    And he was very forward looking compared to Shabery, who kept on looking backward into 30-40-year old stories.
    Bhavani Krishna Iyer: I am neither a great fan of the opposition nor a foe of the BN government but I was tickled pink during the recent debate between Anwar and Shabery. And watching it live made all the difference for we could see who the thinker was as opposed to the other who was grinding on redundancies.
    To begin with, Anwar emerged the nobler of the two, by strategy or otherwise and Shabery was a shame to himself and the government whom he spoke for.
    Despite Anwar repeatedly warning - or reminding, if you like - that the event at hand was not Anwar vs Shabery but more to counter or support the opposition pledge to reduce the fuel price hike if they were to be given the opportunity to lead the nation, Shabery was only a loaded machine gun, losing ammunition but mostly not hitting the target.
    Anwar had his mind and insight clear, he talked about reducing the fuel by not just any sum but by 50 sen and he came up with his reasons and justifications backed with facts and figures.
    Shabery, on the other had, was hiding behind the Barisan government and saw it fit to defend his paymasters without there being a need to do so.
    It also appears that Shabery might have worked really hard on researching the history for that seemed to be his preoccupation rather than issues at hand plaguing us every dawn and dusk.
    Never once did Anwar condemn the Barisan government or Petronas but he did criticise. How do we debate without constructive criticism?
    At the debate , Shabery made us realise that it is one thing to be a talker and another to be debater. Despite the playing field not being equal Anwar emerged a star.
    Chong: I was very happy to be able to catch the last segment of the debate on Bernama TV online. I feel the country is growing up and with that we are given more freedom to express our views in a peaceful and respectful manner.
    Thanks to our PM who has given the flexibility to allow such a forum. I could not help notice in the ending shots seeing Wan Azizah beaming with pride for Anwar.
    In her heart, I think I know who won. I hope to see more live debates, and not just with Anwar.
    Kenny Gan: What is it with Umno politicians? Can't they conduct a civilised debate without hitting below the belt?
    Shabery's debate was liberally peppered with personal attacks against Anwar going all the way back to the 1974 Baling demonstration. How low can you go? The past is over and gone, nobody can say they are the same person 30 years ago.
    Anwar was the better orator and had more substance in his points while Shabery could only keep repeating the mantra that we have to increase oil prices because world crude price is high.
    But what really lost it for Shabery was his unwarranted personal attacks. Thankfully, Anwar refused to be drawn into defending himself or the debate would degenerate into a political fight.
    Hopefully, we will see more such debates in future. With an outlet for expression, people be less prone to take to the streets.
    Primus: Kudos to DSAI for making excellent points cemented by facts and figures during the debate on the price of oil.
    And I strongly believe that many of the right-thinking viewers could decipher that our Information Minister Shabery Cheek was ill-equipped with information regarding the whole issue in contention and resorted to unethical, unprofessional behaviour by using the debate platform to make personal attacks on Anwar.
    It seemed as though Shabery Cheek was a pawn of the BN govt. to spearhead a smear campaign on Anwar. Perhaps, his post should be changed to propaganda minister!
    Analysing the entire debate, I agree with Anwar's point that the IPP agreements should be reviewed and I also believe that a ‘windfall tax’ should be imposed on the IPPs.
    It was also pretty obvious that Shabery did not answer the question on what are the steps taken by the government to improve public transportation in Malaysia, especially in the urban areas but chose to make more personal attacks on DSAI.
    Kudos again to DSAI for highlighting the problems of diesel smuggling in the country. It was also very enlightening to hear DSAI suggesting that RM1 billion be taken from the special dividend given by Petronas to the government to subsidise petrol price.
    DSAI also made an excellent point on the need for good governance, which is vital for the economy of any country. The mandate given to the government is sacrosanct and in exchange the government must govern with the welfare of the people in mind for every single move that they make.
    It is the government's responsibility to ensure that there is low corruption, low wastage and prudent management of the country's multitude of resources.
    Lenard Yangli Lim: While I salute Shabery's bravado for participating in this debate, he must also now fulfill his pledge to resign.
    Not only did he dodge questions, he also played up rhetoric and the very same populist approaches that he claimed to denounce.
    This is not to say that Anwar won the debate though - his arguments, while somewhat logical, are very much contingent to a supremely idealistic world.
    Lastly, as for Shabery's challenge to Anwar - ‘to name a country which enjoys high subsidies and does not have a high rate of inflation at the same time’, well, how about our neighbour Brunei?
    Gman: I must applaud the information minister for breaking the norm to engage in a debate with the opposition that affects the lives of all Malaysians.
    It was indeed a rare occasion to see such a debate and I hope (and I am sure countless others would agree as well) that such debates should be held more often.
    It brings together different elements, ideas and approaches to the problems facing the common people and it is indeed refreshing to see such a debate.
    I am sure it was not only an education in politics, but also finance and economics which I am sure somewhat enhanced the understanding of the average Malaysian on the matter.
    My only gripe is that it was too short and only skimmed the surface of the issue. Anyway kudos to the information minister for taking such a bold step as it is about time and I hope this would be the start of more debates to come as from now we, the rakyat are 'expecting' it
    Tattchua: I can now figure out how come the debate was cut short from the original 90 minutes to 60 minutes after having watched the debate. The information minister was definitely out of points and going on the defensive.
    On the offensive was Anwar who have been rebutted convincingly the minister’s queries.
    Should the debate be allowed to run the original 90 minutes, our minister would have most certainly been script-less whilst Anwar would certainly be applauded by the masses for his tenacity and in-depth understanding on the subject of fuel/ subsidy including the leakages.
    Whilst my ‘winner’ would be Anwar, I applaud Shabery Cheek for taking up this challenge and clearly he is of the kind of budding intellect with calibre that is willing to shoulder the responsibility the country needs.
    Having said that, Anwar displayed a high degree of calmness and quick-mindedness that others can only dream to have possess.
    CK Wong: At long last, the much awaited debate between DSAI and Sabery Cheek took place. But what a big let down it was.
    You had a feeling akin to expecting an electrifying football match between Brazil and Argentina only to realize later it was between Brazil and Myanmar.
    How on earth could our learned ruling party let Shabery take on the likes of DSAI and expect to come out of it a victor? Maybe Shabery was the best they could do because that’s all they have.
    How could the ruling party make a complete mockery of such an important event concerning the rakyat and the future of Malaysia?
    There was nothing BN could offer in this debate as all the facts points to only thing - that whatever DSAI said was true.
    What excuse or critical points could BN offer? None if facts are being taken into consideration. One only has to open half of one's eye to see that the monies being squeezed from the general rakyat through higher fuel prices have gone to the bulging pockets of BN cronies.
    Soon, Malaysia will be privatised, run by BN cronies and known as Malaysia Berhad. The land we walk on could soon be sold by greedy politicians. Let people power prevail and make sweeping changes.
    Let's make ‘Wawasan 2020' a reality before it becomes ‘Yayasan 2020', needing donations from other nations.

  2. Abdullah the sabahanJuly 16, 2008 at 6:36 PM

    What do you expect from AMENO ministers? They think by insulting Anwar, Sabah will get food. That's the economics they were taught. Buffoons and stupid people. I wonder why we were fearful on March 8 to vote for these evil people. But fear has left us since then, though they also rigged massively. Anyway, we have seen the tangible steps Anwar has outlined in solving the people's burden and we have a choice though Be End (BN) want to assassinate him but they are bound to fail for evil bears no fruit. SAPP should never waver, falter or fail in standing up for Sabah and its supreme interests. So far so good and dignity has its price. No retreat till the Promised Land.



    我的意见是回应: 赛哈密陷人民于不义



    第一、安华承诺分阶段的降油价,如果今天执政,明天先降汽油一公升50分!他同时解释如何达到这目标, 减低国能的储备电量由当前40%减低至20%,国家现在很多“漏洞”(bocor)有待修补及整理,他也说针对国阵政府的大幅度调高燃油价格及不善于管理政府,导致人民受害。







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    安华这次被自称为其特别助理的赛夫布卡里(Saiful Bukhari Azlan)控告鸡奸,可谓是308大选后政局所投下的枚炸弹。安华这次再度被指控鸡奸,为原本就波动不平的马来西亚政治局势,徒增一份不明朗因素。不时遭遇严重威胁与极端破坏,甚至会被所在国家统治阶层所利用,成为当权者与反对势力之间的冲突牺牲品乃至政治斗争工具。

    年轻一辈里有多少人懂呢?马来西亚《内安法令》(Internal Security Act,ISA)的产生,这些年来,《内安法令》已被当权者当作是排除异己的政治工具。这项法令的条文,被滥用来进行无审讯扣留。也就是说,在这项法令下,任何人都可被长期扣留,却没权要求公开审讯。内安法令不合理的基本精神实质就在这里。




    今天废除“内安法令”的呼声四起,如果当局还是冥顽不灵,执迷不悟,甘冒天下之大不韪, 妄图以各种借口,继续沿用下去,这只有暴露统治集团内外交困,日子越来越不好过的窘况,也是他们标榜“议会民主”的悲哀。



  5. 人民施压才有政府的开放
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  6. This is where we separate the men from the boys.Anwar was impeccable and Shabery was an unworthy opponent.
    The onslaught character assassination by Shabery against Anwar was totally blatant and irresponsible.He had no idea on facts to present in this debate.

    How does the UMNO/BN Government justify the incompetency of their actions?Malaysians will totally agree with Anwar that the fundamental problem is Irresponsible and Incompetent Economic Management of the Government.That is the Gospel truth and the root of the problem.

    Can the PM or Cabinet Minister honestly stand up and say that,what Anwar has said is a workable avenue?The one thing that all these UMNO/BN Politicians can be assured of is 26 million people in Malaysia will jump for joy with a 50 cent DECREASE OF OIL.This decrease will also spark a further decrease in food and essential items.

    What say you my fellow Sabahans?


  7. say no to be end (BN)July 16, 2008 at 7:21 PM

    The Star Malay version poll says Anwar won by 87% margin. Malaysiakini and all other polls show 95% and above win for Anwar. Well, now you know who is smarter.

  8. The debate has shown that how stupid and lack of wisdom of our country info minister. This also proved that the hypocrite of our government policy always saying that they only recuit the government servants were based on meritrocracy.

    What do you expect a dog from a RACIST and ARROGANT umno party to debate with a person with a wisdom?

    The whole world are laughing at Malaysia now where our stupid government still think that they are the best.

    Inilah budaya bangsat melayu yang tak tahu malu.

    To people of Sabah, do you still want such STUPID and IRRESPONSIVE minister to run the state? UMNO must get lost from Sabah in the first place.

  9. And today he was arrested. Why? BN knows this was not going there way!

    I hope, BN and the PM are not so desperate to implement emergency rule because ppl are on the street for Amwar. With the ergency rule BN CAN stay in power forever. Lets hope for the best and a change on September 16!
    Lets pray!!

  10. After watching the 'live debate' between Anwar and Shabery, i now understand better on why our government keeps appointing people like ZAM and Shabery as the Information Minister - simply because they were willing to perform the task to misinform or to mislead the rakyat without any guilty feeling!

    And in as far as the performance of the two debaters is concerned - Shabery was simply hopeless but Anwar gave hope for the country and its people.

    And the worse part was, Shabery's mouth was constantly foaming, as if he was infected with rabies. Fortunately he didn't run amok during/at the end of the debate.

  11. A Debate is meant for a Change .
    A solution to better and to the Best
    People is the real Winner at the end .

    Shabery, why talk about the history ? people not interest in the past any longer .
    People want to know how our leaders can help the people to reduce our burden in economic cricis , thats simple .

  12. The debate is organized to discuss the topic "A New Government Formed, Oil (Food also) Prices to Come Down", and not to talk about historical achievements about past governments.

    Look at other Asian countries, needless to talk about US, UK, France, Germany, etc, etc !!!

    These countries like China, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, etc, etc had moved forward in terms of development whether oil prices or food prices had increased. The people are the ones who voted out any bad governments who used the wrong policies to run their nations.

    So what is Shabery talking about , out of point and out of topic !!!!!!!!!!

    Lessen the suffering of the lower income population should be the main agenda on this debate !!

    Shabery should tell the Rakyat HOW to help lessen the burden of all Malaysians even if the fuel prices are increased as of NOW or even higher in FUTURE !

    I would say this is the MOST STUPID of him as a FULL INFO MINISTER to discuss about theories of economics and management.

    I think any BUSINESSMAN makes a better Minister than him, I do not know if he is a econs graduate or not.

    Let Pak SaLah or Najis to take the challenge next time...... I doubt they are even better than Shabery !

    Come on lah, LESSEN the burden of the RAKYAT and take out the money you BN UMNO leaders had cheated the MALAYSIAN PEOPLE out of your corrupt means / The Billions of Ringgit will not follow you when you are 6 feet undergroud !!!!

  13. Suruh shabery masuk toast master untuk belajar public speaking dan belajar cara cara berdebat.

    sayang sekali bukan selalu kita tengok debat yang melibatkan datuk sri anwar, malangnya sesi debat itu cacat sedikit akibat kebodohan shabery.

  14. Assalamualaikum Malaysians,

    We, 200 Malaysian grads and 100 foreign grads in Australia are watching live hot political debate via internet between Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim (DSAI) and the young BN stooge Information Minister of Malaysia, Dato Ahmand Shabery Cheek(Shabery) tonight at

    Many local Malaysians and foreign graduates are laughing and booing some UMNO grads here when we were watching and listening live on their Big Stooge Shabery talking nonsense and replying rubbish answers to those questions raised by the panel moderators and DSAI. Shabery was speaking out of his mind on irrelevant answers and kept attacking on past DSAI personal matters to jeopardise DSAI image. He does not speak professionally in giving true facts and figures on each Q&A and running away from actual points raised in the debate. Moreover, Shabery looked panic and shameful when saliva came out from his mouth during tough questions were raised on corruptions, abuse of power, cronies, wastages of public funds etc. He cannot even defend BN reputation or failed to answer such allegations from DSAI.

    Petronas claimed to donate RM62million dividen to the government. Shabery was shocked and cannot able to give a reasonable good answer on how our govt today is able to reduce burden of inflation and control prices of food, petrol and necessities for rakyat. What a BIG MALU ?

    Read what foreign grads commented about the debate subject tonight.

    An African grad commented “What a pity for young UMNO stooge, Shabery was used as a BN puppet to be played and fooled around by DSAI tonight.”

    An Indonesiaon grad silent remark “Abang Shabery dah bodoh sombong tak bikin jawab, panel modertor tanya ini, beliau jawab bukan bukan. Aduhai! Pak dah gila betul hantar UMNOputra ini kasi KORBAN malam ini.”

    A Japanese grad quoted “Haid! Shabery got to HARA KIRI losing the debate to DSAI tonight or his Master BN instructed him for a KAMIKAZI mission tonight. He was less smart enough for DSAI to shoot him down easily on all allegations against DSAI and the debate failed to resolve the real inflation problems in Malaysia.” Aiyo! Shabery is a small ninja in BN can be simply defeated by SAMURAI DSAI power.

    A Singaporean grad laughed: “It looks like it, It sounds like it, Correct, correct, correct, Pak Lah is still working smart and tried to find out the true answers from the debate on how DSAI is going to reveal his secret recipe in reducing the price of petrol when DSAI becoming a PM in waiting.”

    An Iranian grad quipped.” Well! The debate cannot resolve any problems for Malaysians unless DSAI will become PM in waiting, Pak Lah no match in terms of DSAI charisma, leadership and good toastmaster. Shabery was totally written off tonight by the audiences in Malaysia and worldwide IT bloggers.”


    We concluded tonight debate (after DSAI and Shabery war of words ended) with a vote of confidence on our new debate subject :

    “WHO WILL BECOME A NEW PM MALAYSIA SOON” We voted in 30 mins.

    Majority 300 university students and grads voted the following result:-

    92% for Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim

    8% for Muhyiddin Yassin

    0% for Pak Lah nominee, Najib

    Your vote for the winner tonight ? DSAI or Shabery .

    DSAI won perfect 10 / Shabery KO with shameful face tonight.

    (As we see and listen the hot debate tonight, we write without FEAR and FAVOR…May GOD bless Malaysia)

    Kind Regards,

    Malaysian Best Brains and Foreign grads’ buddies
    Sydney and Melbourne/ Australia Universities

  15. What a shame to have an idiot like Shabry to be living among us Malaysian who are sincere and humble. We want to hear how can the Rakyat lessen their burden caused by be end (bn) and not personal attack. If pak gi lah put this man as menteri, that means p lah is also setengah tiang. Shabry should be thrown out of govt and apolozise to all Malaysias for showing no respect and utterly stupid 'so what!' attitude. Anwar has spoken the truth of how the average families have suffered becos of corruptions n abuse of power by bn n lousy standard in even doing simple task of looking after its people. On the scale of 1 to 10, Anwar: 10, Shaby: -19. By the way, Shaby looks like my pet dog whose mouth water can't stop dripping. May be next time my dog Smarky should debate with Shabby.

  16. Shed-a-berry = Jaguh Kampung
    As is the case with all UMNO baboons who are winners only in the eyes of the kampong folks! That's what they are good for, talk until they foam at their mouths but unfortunately, nothing else is done.

  17. he only serious challenger to Anwar in such as debate is Tun M.
    Ahmad Rubbery was rubbery in his frothing mouth trying of all things...personal attack. Where did Pak Bodoh get the idea that Rubbery has good oratory skill. He seemed lost most of the time trying to fend off Anwar's argument. A mouthwash would be good for Rubbery for his foul smelling mouth. Truly disgusting.
    Now you know why it’s not shown on RTM1/2, TV3. Afraid the kampong folks know too much of Umno’s misdeeds. That’s why the rakyat is worried about where Malaysia is heading with such ministers deciding our fate.

  18. Why is so hurry to catch Angwar ?

    We thought the POolice Datuk Bakri hsa made it till 2 pm .
    If Police authority did not HONOUR what they said , how on earth u can ask ' Malaysia Rakyat ' to trust Malaysia Police ?

    Semua pun Hantu lah .
    All of the Devil in the same kind .

    Datuk Bakri why cant ur men just to wait ONE more hour to remand Amnwar ?
    Let say 2.05 pm ? that will be how nice , if Anwar did not show up himself in the police Station by 2.05pm .
    Then Rakyat of Malaysi would not put the blame on Police .
    Now You know what have u done ? Whole of Malaysian will talk Very , Very Bad about Police .

    Where is fairness ?
    Where is Justice ?
    Where is integrity ?
    Police is only ONE SIDED

    Even I am supposed to be BN strong Supporter , now it seems I have disagree with police's action on how they handle Answar .

    Inspector General Police - IGP , u tend to choose aneye for en eye ...................but u just cannot solve the problem like that wonder once Najib ever said last week that politic is very dirty indeed .

    Ur action like this forcing us BN supporters to change their support towards Opposition who ever they may be .

    Take note PM Honourable Badawi
    Pls tell your men not to use dirty Tactic
    or else
    Malaysian Rakyat will turn BN down .

  19. Many had watched the debate live and heard same old thing came out of Shabby's mouth:"UMNO & Government.....etc...!"
    It can't probably only UMNO is hell of grand but without using people's money. Please have some merit for other too as without "all malaysian" effort even TUN will agree probably Malaysia won't be what is today.
    Let bully sabahan & Sabah no more as would like to remind this typical UMNO leader.
    Look what have you done so little and always listen to the outcry of unfair voices from north to south in peninsular too!
    What motive they have to always "motivate" melayu every now and then with "tongkat"!
    Stop it and have policy change good for every malaysian before even Vietnam and other countries in Asean progress ahead of us. Never be too stubborn and this cannot be an excuse always threaten on racial issues. Now is 21st century alright.
    Wake up specially Sabah leaders to ask for sabahan now.

  20. One extremely important factor that is mind boggling which I demand an explanation from the 129 UMNO/BN MP's that supported the fuel price increase is...These 129 UMNO/BN MP's has been professing in Parliament that there are always voicing the voices of the people.


  21. UMNO currently luring PAS to join them, if UMNO succeeded, I would say GAME OVER for Sabah. Don't you think you can hold your prestigious position as a Minister in federal forever, dumb ass PBS, PBRS, UPKO, etc.

  22. Jul 17, 08 12:00pm
    Ahli jawatankuasa pusat MCA Dr Tan Yee Kew meninggalkan MCA dan bakal mencetuskan kegemparan baru apabila bekas setiuasaha parlimen ini diura-urakan akan menyertai PKR.

    Dalam sidang media mengumumkan keputusannya keluar parti hari ini, Dr Tan berkata "PKR satu pilihan yang baik" apabila diminta mengulas ura-ura itu.

    Bagaimanapun beliau akan mengumumkan parti baru yang bakal disertainya tidak lama lagi.

    Dr Tan, bekas timbalan ketua Wanita MCA, diura-urakan akan dilantik pengerusi Majlis Perbandaran Klang.

    SAPP APA TUNGGU LAGI !!!!!!!!!!!! CAPAT LA !!!!!!!!!nanti lamabt !!!!!!!!!!!!! HIDUP ANWAR !!!! REFORMASI !!!!

  23. SAPP now its the time to leave BN, stay independent or join PKR. Please do it for the sake of Chinese people in Sabah and also those poor KDM people. MCA Dr Tan Yee Kew already lefte its toothless party MCA and now its your call SAPP.

  24. Haiya Shabeli ah.. u ini mikin malu sama kita amuno(UMNO). U milang ah, kalo u kalah lebate sama itu anwal, u mo litak jawatan. Jadi ah kita tungku u bila mau litak jawatan. Kalau u titak jadi litak jawatan ah manyak malu oh..tapi gua tada helanlah itu Parti amuno ah sutah miasa titak litak itu jawatan masam itu peldana menteli ah sutah titak popela pun masih tadak mo lesain.

  25. sapp ! tunggu apa lagi!!!July 17, 2008 at 2:11 PM

    Ahli jawatankuasa pusat MCA Dr Tan Yee Kew meninggalkan MCA dan bakal mencetuskan kegemparan baru apabila bekas setiuasaha parlimen ini diura-urakan akan menyertai PKR.

    Dalam sidang media mengumumkan keputusannya keluar parti hari ini, Dr Tan berkata "PKR satu pilihan yang baik" apabila diminta mengulas ura-ura itu.

    Bagaimanapun beliau akan mengumumkan parti baru yang bakal disertainya tidak lama lagi.

    "Bibit sistem dua parti telah ditunjukkan di negara ini pada 8 Mac... Saya yakin masanya telah tiba satu perubahan politik dalam negara kita," katanya.

    Mengulas usahanya menyokong sistem dua parti - antara BN dan Pakatan - yang sedang terbentuk selepas pilihanraya umum Mac lalu, beliau berkata:

    "Sama ada sistem dua parti akan tenggelam akarnya di bumi Malaysia, sekaranglah ketikanya membuat keputusan.

    "Sebagai seorang individu, kekuatan saya terhad. Bagaimanapun, jika dalam masa perubahan politik yang kritikal, saya boleh memberi sedikit bantuan, tidak kira bagaimana remehnya nanti, ia masih satu langkah yang bernilai diambil."

    Dr Tan, bekas timbalan ketua Wanita MCA, diura-urakan akan dilantik pengerusi Majlis Perbandaran Klang jika menyertai Pakatan Rakyat.

    Dalam kenyataan di sidang media di Klang, beliau menyatakan MCA gagal memperjuangkan nasib kaum Cina dan BN sendiri tidak mampu mengatasi pelbagai masalah rasuah, diskriminasi kaum, salah guna kuasa dan jurang kaya-miskin yang semakin meluas.

    "MCA terpaksa berhempas-pulas untuk mempertahankan kepentingan kaum, tetapi kadangkala berakhir dengan menyerah dan kompromi," kata Dr Tan.

    Beliau juga melahirkan rasa kecewanya dengan persaingan puak dalam MCA dan desakan pembaharuan yang gagal dilaksanakan oleh barisan pemimpin parti.

    "Dalam parti, amalan berpuak-puak telah menyebabkan pertelingkahan dalaman dan membiarkan amalan-amalan yang tidak baik seperti wujudnya ahli hantu.

    "Pendedahan kebanyakan isu parti sejauh ini tidak diatasi secara adil dan saksama.

    "Saya cuba memperjuangkan untuk pembaharuan tetapi kecewa melihat perjuangan parti yang bermula atas nama demokrasi dan reformasi, berakhir hanya dengan pertukaran kepimpinan dan peralihan kuasa, tetapi perubahan telah tidak dilaksanakan dengan jujurnya," kata bekas setiausaha parlimen Kementerian Perdagangan Antarabangsa dan Industri.

  26. sapp, ni you mau hak lon er oh? Mau hak lon, hok ng ga zo mai ah tao oh? suk lin la.. Zo ken mui kiu la ! yi se tu zo ken mui kiu la ! kong wa tai sang you mai lin yung??? mau yung...! sit chen tu panai la ! ngai tiao ni... tet li, nya tai ko chim ni ar ! la ngin o? ah thiam ar chim ni ar!
    han ng la la sang lok ti fu la ni !


    妙空无我 | 7月16日 傍晚7点13分








  28. Shabery spoke without substance..."percayalah saya" asking the people to believe him that the fuel hike is justifiable and supported by 129 BN MPs??
    Oh my god! My pocket is bleeding, don't you know????

  29. UMNO-BN must be overthrown because they are responsible for the many problems of Malaysia. It is not possible to abolish ketuanan Melayu without first overthrowing UMNO-BN. And unless ketuanan Melayu is abolished, it is not possible to abolish NEP. And without abolishing NEP the Chinese cannot have equality. Therefore, it is obvious that whatever else the opposition might do, it is the correct thing to do to overthrow UMNO-BN government.

    If the opposition cannot implement a fair and equitable government, then the people will exercise its power and vote them out and vote some other new politicians in. This is the way democracy works. The people may not always be right in choosing their leaders. In fact, mistakes will be made. But because mistakes can be expected to be made, the election takes place perirodically to allow the people to correct the mistakes to prune the deadwood and replace them with new blood.

    People should not think that since politicians sometimes become corrupt, therefore it is futile to have elections. They must understand that no political system is perfect. But democracy with its systems of election will allow the people to rectify their mistakes. And over time and with an increasingly knowledgeable electorate, the choices of the people will be more and more honest and clean. And the government will then be increasingly efficient and responsive to the people's will.

    Therefore, even if things looks chaotic in the democratic system yet is defintely is method therein. And chaos will eventually be resolved and a new era will dawn.

  30. Dear Datuk Richard Yong,

    From the debate, all of us can see what UMNO is like.... ARROGANT, EGOistic, Low IQ, and a host of other -ve character.

    With all this bad character, how on earth can other Component Paries of BN can link themselves to UMNO. The country under UMNO will definitely be retarded and goes backward in time.

    My Taiwan's friend once told me..."if Malaysia is Taiwan, she will be the richest country in the region"

    I sincerely hope, my dear Datuk YTL will get all MPS from Sabah, form a East Malaysia Pakatan Rakyat and ultimately join Pakatan Rakyat to work together to prosper Malaysia before she becomes gangrenous from wide spread corruption and mismanagement.

    we support SAPP to make the first move to leave BN.

  31. Government To Use Petronas Special Dividend To Ease People's Burden

    KUALA LUMPUR, July 17 (Bernama) -- The government will use the RM6 billion in special dividend paid by Petronas to ease the people's burden in the wake of the recent fuel price hikes, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said Thursday.

    Let us analyze Shabery said the other countries like Saudi,Iran etc have inflation rates higher than us in Malaysia. Just imagine...Malaysia has almost all the natural resources e.g. food essentials (except for rice).

    We have enough meat, vegetables, cooking oil, etc..enough for local consumption compared to these Arab countries who import food items and that is why their inflations are high.

    If Malaysia does not hike our fuel prices, we will not face high inflation even to our local produce, caused by high transportation charges due to high fuel prices.

    I go to ordinary coffee shops and could feel the pinch..RM0.50 increase. Last time I can bring my whole family to eat outside once or twice per week but now I simply could not afford it with RM2500 income per month. All items increasing and also my electric bills. Simply can't afford it.

    Petronas is now earning very much more than before (before the whole crude oil hike). They said they are investing for the future. For the future of what?

    We are suffering now because this. Many people will go bankrupt, crimes will increase, everybody goes desperate.

    Is this what the government wants? What they want is to show the world they have money but we, ordinary citizens have to sacrifice for that...for their mega goes to who?

  32. Salam sejahtera.

    Malaysia mengecapi kemajuan dari segi pembangunan dan minda pada masa kini berbanding masa lampau yang menyaksikan para pemimpin tercari-cari sentuhan sebenar bagaimana mereka boleh mengekalkan tampuk pemerintahan.

    Keinginan mengatasi kesetiaan.

    Apa juga corak politik yang diteruskan akan membuka lembaran baru untuk pergerakan enjin baru bagi mengerak-rancakkan pembangunan dan juga minda rakyat Malaysia khususnya.

    Kredibiliti akan juga memain peranan menarik sekiranya muncul muka baru yang akan menghangatkan persada politik negara.

    Kesilapan demi kesalahan juga menjurus kepada kekeliruan dan persoalan yang diterjemahkan kepada jawapan tersendiri dalam merumuskan maksud sebenar kematangan politik.

    Nampaknya simbol yang diharap akan membawa kesedaran selama ini sudah terabai kerana keghairahan mengejar kemewahan untuk turut sama menjelajah ke serata benua.

    Selagi kerajaan BN masih kekal memerintah maka adalah semangat setia kawan yang akan menentukan apa jua akan berlaku selepas ini dan oleh itu emosi berunsurkan nafsu akan merumuskan jawapan untuk golongan tertentu.

    Tiada yang bersalah dalam hal ini cuma tanggungjawab dalam menentukan masa depan masing-masing bergantung pada sehebat mana penyediaan payung sebelum hujan kita pergi itu menjadi pengukur akan datang.

    Salam sejahtera.

  33. Shabery should quit for failing to explain, says Jeffery

    Kota Kinabalu: Information Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek should keep his pledge and resign from his post for failing to explain why the government raised the domestic fuel price so steeply and suddenly.

    Parti Keadilan Rakyat Vice President Datuk Dr Jeffrey Kitingan said the Minister not only failed to answer Anwar's questions but also resorted to personal attacks, which is rather unprofessional.

    According to him, Anwar was focused, relaxed and professional. "If there was a contest, Anwar would have won hands down 10 to 1," he said in a statement here Wednesday.

    The Minister, he said, also did not answer the question posed by a member of the panel on how the RM13 billion savings from subsidy would be utilised to improve public transportation as only RM800 million was spent from the earlier commitment of RM4 billion from a similar saving.

    Shabery did not seem to listen to what Anwar was saying to the extent that the Minister could not differentiate between the revenues from Petronas to the government (which Anwar was referring) and the revenues retained and invested by Petronas.

    He said the Minister was more interested in talking about the politics of the past (1974) which was totally unrelated to the debate rather than the current fuel price issues affecting the people.

    "Unlike Anwar, who respected his opponent and avoided personal attacks, Shabery was totally defensive and unprofessional. Hence, Shabery should keep his pledge and resign. He is giving a bad leadership example for young people," he said.

  34. Anwar memberi komen yang menarik berbanding Shaberi yang hanya tahu buat air liur ditepi mulutnya. Nyata sekali Shaberi gagal mewakili kerajaan dan sepatutnya meletakkan jawatan. Tujuan hendak popular bertukar menjadi cemuhan. Shaberi patut malu dengan corak percakapan menyerang peribadi yang tidak sepatutnya menjadi budaya seorang menteri. Kempen itu bertukar menjadi ceramah politik kosong. 5 billion yang dikatakan oleh Anwar amatlah praktikal. Seharusnya Kerajaan mengambil serius masalah rakyat.

    Pada masa sekarang penggunaan minyak meningkat RM5.00 setiap RM10.00 yang dibelanjakan sebelum ini. Oleh itu, langkah kerajaan memberikan rebat hanyalah satu wayang yang memberikan hiburan sementara sahaja. berapa peratus % kah jumlah kewangan itu dibelanjakan untuk minyak. Hanya 20%. selebihnya dibelanjakan. Pada akhirnya 2 minggu selepas itu, rakyat masih menanggung beban yang sangat berat. Apakah ini dikatakan langkah bijak.

    Gaji Menteri harus dikurangkan 20%, sementara itu, pemberian bonus kepada kakitangan kerajaan seharusnya dihentikan dengan memberikan tawaran gaji yang lebih baik. Kakitangan swasta juga perlu diberikan satu tangga gaji yang boleh menguntungkan kedua-dua pihak iaitu majikan dan pekerja.

    Jawapan kepada Anwar, tahniah.
    Kepada Shaberi, letak jawatanlah.
    kepada PM, jgn buang masa 2 tahun, sebaliknya 1 tahunpun lagi hanya membebankan rakyat dengan keputusan dan pengumuman tidak konsisten dan ada juga yang ditarik semula setelah mendapat bantahan.

  35. Kepada Semua ahli Komponen BN,
    Tidakkah anda perhatikan dan mendengar Shabery mengatakan KERAJAAN UMNO, Barisan Nasional dalam penggulungan beliau. Seolah olah dia mengatakan Kerajaan ini ditubuhkan UMNO sahaja ? Mana Parti Komponen yang lain ? Yang telah menyumbangkan Kemenangan BN ?

    Tak perlu dibuat komen, Budak pun faham Debat antara Anwar dan Shabery nyatanya tidak membawa makna kepada Kerajaan kerana kegagalan MENTERI menjawab soalan dan isu yang dibangkitkan.

    Hanya kerana beliau adalah daripada Kerajaan dan Menteri Penerangan, maka media memberikan kemenangan kepadanya. Itukah panduan yang perlu kita terima ? Tolol

  36. jawapan kepada zaidi gilong.

    sebagai negara yang sedang membangun contohnya malaysia, kesetiaan yang berpanjangan terhadap sebuah perti pemerintah rasanya tak releven lagi. Kerana sesebuah kerajan yang telah lama bertakhta akan memusnahkan negara. Ini disebabkan pemimpin yang ada dalam kerajaan itu bertambah angkuh kerana merasakan kesetiaan rakyat terhadap kerajaan tak berbelahbagi,oleh itu mereka mula menyalahgunakan kuasa kerana rakyat tidak ambil kisah sangat dengan tindakan yang pemimpin lakukan itu.

    Rakyat seharusnya mengikis kesetiaan lapok ala "Hang Tuah" sanggup difitnah/didera/diseksa tanpa rasa ingin menentang demi kesetiaan.

    Jangan kerana keselesaan hidup yang tak seberapa kita sanggup jadi pecacai pemerintah dan membiarkan jutaan rakyat menderita, saperti sesetengah individu yang selalu mempertahan tindakan kerajaan walaupun mereka fikirkan tindakan itu tidak baik untuk rakyat.

    fikir fikirkan dan renung renungkan

  37. Assalamualaikum dan Salam Sejahtera;

    MINYAK NAIK..!!! Relax...
    Produk HEBAT yang di cari-cari oleh SEMUA orang!
    Kenaikan HARGA MINYAK tidak boleh dibendung lagi...
    Semua rakyat merasa bahang kenaikan bahan api ini.
    Mari kita mula BERJIMAT sambil menjana pendapatan.

    Dengan Modal Mula RM 50,
    Anda mampu menjana pendapatan Sampingan sehingga RM 97,000.00!

    Perniagaan ini sungguh MUDAH. Cuma SMS dan EMAIL laman web anda kepada kawan2. Selainnya, kami buatkan untuk anda.

    Anda juga di jemput menyertai kami dalam pemasaran produk HEBAT ini, juga produk-produk lain sebagai alternatif kepada menambahkan pendapatan anda dalam kemelut kegawatan dan kos kehidupan yang makin meningkat.

    Harga minyak sepanjang zaman.. (dalam masa 16 tahun - sejak 1990 ) TIME TUN DR MAHATHIR
    sebelum 90 - RM 0.89
    tahun 1990 - RM 1.10 (kenaikan RM 0.21 )
    01/10/2000 - RM 1.20 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
    20/10/2001 - RM 1.30 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
    01/05/2002 - RM 1.32 (kenaikan RM 0.02)
    31/10/2002 - RM 1.33 (kenaikan RM 0.01)
    01/03/2003 - RM 1.35 (kenaikan RM 0.02 )

    01/05/2004 - RM 1.37 (kenaikan RM 0.02)
    01/10/2004 - RM 1.42 (kenaikan RM 0.05)
    05/05/2005 - RM 1.52 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
    31/07/2005 - RM 1.62 (kenaikan RM 0.10)
    28/02/2006 - RM 1.92 (kenaikan RM 0.30)
    04/06/2008 - RM 2.70 (kenaikan RM 0.78)

    Nota : (ayat - ayat standard)
    1. Kenaikan minyak masih rendah berbanding mana2 pun negara ASEAN.
    2. Kerajaan akan pastikan kenaikan tidak membebankan .
    3. Kerajaan tidak mampu lagi menampung subsidi.
    4. Kerajaan memberi jaminan harga runcit petroleum tidak akan dinaikkan lagi pada TAHUN INI .
    Saudara / Saudari,
    Pertama sekali abang Perdana Menteri kita ia itu Ibrahim bin Badawi menerusi syarikatnya SkyChef menjadi supplier makanan kepada syarikat penerbangan MAS yang sekarang mengalami kerugian RM900 juta untuk sembilan bulan pertama 2005. Abang PM kita jual sebotol air mineral kepada MAS dengan harga RM30 setiap botol. Kenapa kita hairan MAS rugi ?
    Menteri Besar terengganu Idris Jusoh telah mengadakan lumba kapal layar Monsoon Cup yang menelan duit rakyat sebanyak RM300.0 Juta.
    Duit ini di bayar kepada seorang taukeh bernama Patrick Lim dan kekawannya termasuk Khairy Jamaludin menantu Perdana Menteri. Perlumbaan kapal layar tak sampai lima hari makan duit rakyat RM300.0 Juta. Sudah tentu duit RM300.0 Juta itu ditelan oleh orang yang sungguh bertuah dapat kontrak RM300.0 Juta itu.
    Untuk menutup kehilangan duit sebesar ini sekarang sabsidi minyak di potong dan harga minyak naik 30 sen satu liter.
    Telekom Malaysia pula rugi lebih RM700 Juta duit rakyat sebab terpaksa bayar ganti rugi kepada syarikat telekom German ia itu Deutsche Telekom.. Terpaksa bayar ganti rugi RM700 Juta sebab Telekom Malaysia tak tahu buat kontrak.
    Nak tutup rugi ini pula kerajaan potong sabsidi minyak.
    Sekarang lebih murah naik kapalterbang Air Asia pergi balik dari Kuala Lumpur ke Kuala Terengganu. Tambang pergi balik Air Asia dari Kuala Lumpur ke Kuala Terengganu tak sampai RM300 bagi tiga orang sekeluarga.
    Air Asia diurus oleh orang yang tidak rasuah dan yang tahu buat bisnes tanpa menyusahkan rakyat.
    Sekarang dengan harga minyak yang sudah naik, belanja minyak sahaja nak pergi balik dari Kuala Lumpur ke Alor Setar sudah naik hingga RM220 (kereta Proton Waja). Bayar tol pula lebih RM120. Belanja makan dan minum (nasi campur dan teh kosong) bagi sekeluarga enam orang tambah lagi RM40. Ini bermaksud jumlah belanja minyak, tol dan makan minum pergi balik dari Kuala Lumpur ke Alor Setar hampir RM400.
    Negeri lain bukan macam negara kita. Walaupun harga minyak di Thailand lebih mahal daripada harga minyak di Malaysia tapi di Thailand tak ada bayar tol.
    Dari Bukit Kayu Hitam ke Bangkok jauhnya lebih 1,100 batu (bukan kilometer) naik lebuhraya enam lorong tanpa bayar TOL (bukan empat lorong macam Lebuhraya Utara Selatan kita).
    Di Thailand tak ada rasuah AP. Harga kereta Honda Civic 1.5 di Thailand tak sampai RM40,000. Lebih murah daripada harga kereta Perodua Kelisa 1.0 di Malaysia. Inilah kelebihannya di Thailand - tak ada AP di sana .
    Di Malaysia pula ada AP. Sebenarnya harga AP yang perlu di bayar kepada Kerajaan (MITI) tak sampai RM250 sahaja. Tapi AP boleh di jual sehingga RM40,000 sekeping kepada Dato Dato yang kaya yang di kenal sebagai 'AP King'. Rasuah AP ini telah berlanjutan selama lebih 30 tahun. Akhir kata rakyat Malaysia yang terpaksa tanggung rasuah AP ini.
    Oleh yang demikian kereta Honda Civic 1.5 yang dijual dengan harga RM40,000 di Thailand naik harga sehingga RM110,000 di Malaysia. Rakyat Malaysia rugi. Kerajaan pun hilang wang. Bila kerajaan tak cukup wang - maka potonglah subsidi minyak. Maka naik lah harga minyak 30 sen satu liter.
    Malaysia Boleh!!!!
    Sekian. Salam.
    * Tolong hantarkan informasi ini kepada kawan kawan yang anda kenali. Tolong print dan sebarkan kerana hanya 1% penduduk Malaysia yg celik IT.... 99% memerlukan informasi ini sebagai langkah pertama untuk transformasi negara.... Sedarlah sudah 50 tahun kemerdekaan negara kita, tapi kita masih di takuk lama.... HAPUSKAN PENTADBIRAN ASAS RASUAH!!!
    Adakah kita harus menjadi mangsa dalam kejadian sedemikian?
    Orang lain hutang duit,kita sebagai rakyat Malaysia pula kena membayar ?
    Yang penting sekali, bukan setakat bayar sahaja, manakala nak bayar sampai bila ? Adakah ini akan berhenti ?........... .

    Terima kasih

  38. Zaidi Gilong:
    Selagi kerajaan BN masih kekal memerintah maka adalah semangat setia kawan yang akan menentukan apa jua akan berlaku selepas ini dan oleh itu emosi berunsurkan nafsu akan merumuskan jawapan untuk golongan tertentu.


  39. To Zaidi Gilong,

    Shame on you as a Sabahan. You rather sell your parent and children to your evil master umno and keep licking their ass until your kadazan/dusun race dissappeared in this earth.

    You will be written in Malaysia History book for betraying your race and state.

    Posted by Super Admin
    Friday, 18 July 2008
    Malah bukan rakyat sahaja yang teruja dengan hujah Anwar bahkan Ahli Parlimen BN juga seolah mengakui kebenarannya apabila mereka pada keesokkan harinya mendesak kerajaan menaikkan jumlah rebet tunai yang dibayar kepada pemilik kenderaan persendirian.
    Adnan Ibrahim, HARAKAH
    Banyak kajian yang dibuat berpendapat, perbahasan Ketua Umum KeADILan, Dato' Seri Anwar Ibrahim untuk menurunkan harga minyak lebih menyakinkan daripada Menteri Penerangan, Dato' Ahmad Shabery Cheek yang mempertahankan dasar kerajaan menaikkan harga minyak.
    Cadangan Anwar menurunkan harga minyak 50 sen seliter walaupun disifatkan Shabery bukan mengikut janji beliau sebelum pilihan raya umum 8 Mac lalu dimana ketika itu petrol berharga RM1.92 seliter, tetap diterima berdasarkan rakyat mempunyai dua pilihan iaitu satu pihak menaikan harga minyak dan satu lagi menawarkan turun harga minyak.
    Selain itu, Anwar juga mampu menyakinkan rakyat bahawa harga penurunan itu dibuat berdasarkan langkah awal sekiranya beliau memerintah setelah mengambil kira kerosakkan ekonomi akibat BN menaikkan harga minyak begitu tinggi.
    Malah bukan rakyat sahaja yang teruja dengan hujah Anwar bahkan Ahli Parlimen BN juga seolah mengakui kebenarannya apabila mereka pada keesokkan harinya mendesak kerajaan menaikkan jumlah rebet tunai yang dibayar kepada pemilik kenderaan persendirian.
    Debat antara Anwar dan Shabery di Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka (DBP), Kuala Lumpur pada malam Selasa lalu, manakala sidang Dewan Rakyat keesokkannya menyaksikan Ahli Parlimen BN yang mengambil bahagian perbahasan Rang Undang-Undang Pembekalan Tambahan 2008, meminta kerajaan meningkat jumlah rebet tersebut bagi meringankan beban rakyat akibat kenaikan harga minyak.
    Perkara tersebut dibangkitkan oleh Ir. Hamim Samuri (BN-Ledang), Dato' Baharum Mohamad (BN-Sekijang), Dato' Bung Moktar Radin (BN-Kinabatangan), Dato' Seri Dr. Jamaluddin Jarjis (BN-Rompin) dan Dato' Abdul Rahman Dahlan (BN-Kota Belud).
    Malah ada perbahasan yang beremorsi seperti Muhammad Aziz (BN-Sri Gading) sehingga menyukarkan Timbalan Speaker, Dato' Dr Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar untuk menghentikan ucapan beliau.
    Walaupun perbahasan Muhammad tidak meminta kenaikan rebet tetapi kesan kenaikan harga minyak dan barang menyukarkan kehidupan rakyat miskin. Bagi beliau kerajaan kena tegas memastikan peruntukan tersebut sampai kepada sasaran.
    Sementara Hamim yang menyentuh tentang rebet, menegaskan, peningkatan rebat tunai itu akan dapat membantu golongan berpendapatan rendah yang kebanyakannya menggunakan motosikal dan kereta Proton.
    Bagi mengurangkan beban pemilik kenderaan ekoran kenaikan harga minyak, mulai 14 Jun lalu kerajaan telah membayar rebat RM625 kepada pemilik kenderaan di bawah 2,000cc manakala pemilik motosikal berkapasiti enjin sehingga 250cc pula menerima bayaran tunai sebanyak RM150.
    Bayaran itu dibayar kepada pemilik kenderaan yang telah memperbaharui cukai jalan kenderaan masing-masing.
    Menurut Hamim, polisi rebat tunai yang diperkenalkan oleh kerajaan amat baik tetapi jumlahnya tidak sesuai kerana penduduk berpendapatan rendah tidak mendapat bantuan sepenuhnya bagi menghadapi beban kenaikan harga petrol dan diesel.
    "Seelok-eloknya rebat tunai bagi pemilik motosikal dinaikkan paling kurang RM1,000 kerana mereka merupakan golongan berpendapatan rendah," katanya.
    Hamim percaya bantuan rebat tunai yang lebih tinggi kepada pemilik kenderaan terutama motosikal akan memberi insentif kepada mereka untuk memperbaharui cukai jalan yang selama ini tidak diendahkan.
    Baharum pula ketika mencelah memberitahu, rebat tunai perlu ditingkatkan kepada pemilik motosikal kerana mereka adalah golongan berpendapatan rendah manakala pemilik kereta merupakan golongan berpendapatan lebih tinggi.
    Bung Moktar pula ketika mencelah perbahasan Hamim mahukan kerajaan memasukkan pembayaran rebat tunai ke dalam Bajet 2009 yang akan dibentangkan di Dewan Rakyat pada Ogos ini.
    "Kerajaan ada kemampuan dan sebaik-baiknya masukkan perkara ini dalam Bajet 2009. Marilah kita realisasikan perkara ini dan marilah kita bantu rakyat berpendapatan rendah yang memang mengharapkan bantuan daripada kerajaan BN," kata beliau.
    Sementara itu, Abdul Rahman meminta subsidi pengangkutan awam turut diberi kepada pemilik kenderaan persendirian yang menggunakannya sebagai teksi sapu tidak berdaftar dengan Jabatan Pengangkutan Jalan (JPJ).
    Jelasnya, teksi sapu merupakan pengangkutan awam utama di Sabah dan Sarawak yang ketinggalan dari segi kemudahan pengangkutan awam.
    "Saya harap pemandu teksi sapu ini diberi kelonggaran agar mereka dapat subsidi minyak bagi kepentingan penduduk luar bandar di Sabah dan Sarawak," katanya.
    Bagaimanapun, Jamaluddin ketika menyentuh isu yang sama meminta rebat tunai tidak diberikan kepada rakyat yang memiliki sehingga empat atau lima buah kenderaan.
    Jelasnya, rakyat yang memiliki kenderaan yang banyak semestinya mempunyai pendapatan yang tinggi.
    "Kalau mereka mempunyai empat kenderaan, dua daripadanya jenis BMW serta dua buah Proton, mereka ini dikira mempunyai pendapatan tinggi dan tidak sepatutnya menerima rebat walaupun untuk dua buah kereta Proton itu," katanya.
    Sementara itu Ahli Parlimen, Tian Chua (PKR-Batu) ketika mengambil bahagian perbahasan yang sama, menyangkal hujah Shabery bahawa Iran dan Venezuela walaupun harga minyak rendah tetapi inflasi negara tersebut tetap tinggi.
    "Kita kena ambil kira keadaan semasa di negara terbabit. Iran umpamanya mendapat tekanan embargo Amerika Syarikat mengenakan sekatan ekonomi ke atas negara tersebut," ujarnya.
    Halaman internet pro BN tidak banyak mengulas tentang debat tersebut berbanding sesawang pro pakatan rakyat dan bebas.
    Posting halaman Puteri Umno hanya mengambil salinan daripada laporan Bernama manakala sesawang pemuda Umno pula bertajuk `Kantoi' dengan karikatur berwajah Anwar.
    Bagaimanapun dailognya: "Tak sangka temberang aku boleh pakai lagi. Janji manifesto pakatan rakyat BA** pun dah kantoi. Apa susahnya nak jual air liur basi Kalau ada orang nak 'free' pun boleh!" mengundang pelbagai pertanyaan.
    Ini kerana sesiapa yang mengikuti debat tersebut tahu siapa yang berbuih air liur berhujah? Apakah sindiran pemuda Umno itu bermaksud serampang dua mata? Sekiranya itulah yang dimaksudkan bermakna Shabery tidak lagi popular bagi pemuda Umno dan kedudukan beliau dalam Umno mungkin sudah ke penghujung.

  41. Oil prize wnt down on the intern. market. Did you feel it at the pump? No? Why?

  42. SAPP, dare to make a move. Time for u to arouse revolution in Sabah. Lets other BN component parties keep licking UMNO ass. They no more time to do that.

  43. This is my first time to see that a malay that speak like a keling. Shabery = Keling, we need to trace Shabery family background if he is actually a mamak (mix keling). If we see snake and shabery better shot shabery. He always twisted the fact by Anuar Ibrahim, I dont think shabery knows what he is talikng about. Come on Sabahan, what do we expect from a UMNO MP, they are only racist and religious extremist (supporter of OSAMA bin Laden). So next time better shot the UMNO than Keling (Ular), UMNO is much more poisonous.

  44. Inflation hits 7.7%, highest in 26 years
    Jul 23, 08 5:54pm
    Malaysia's annual inflation rate jumped to a 26-year high of 7.7 percent in June due to a substantial rise in fuel prices, according to official data released today.

    MCPXNor Mohamed Yakcop, second finance minister, had already said that a 41-percent hike in subsidised fuel prices last month was set to boost inflation in June and July.

    The figure came as something of a surprise as economists had predicted June inflation of 6.6 percent.

    Economists now expect the central bank to raise interest rates by 25 basis points at the end of July to counter the jump in inflation.

    Transport prices increase 20%

    Malaysia's key interest rate now stands at 3.50 percent.

    Transport prices rose 19.6 percent in June as compared with a year ago, while food and non-alcoholic beverages rose 10 percent.

    In the first half of the year, consumer prices rose 3.7 percent from the same period the year before.

    Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi last month announced a deeply unpopular 41 percent increase in petrol prices to cut the country's subsidies bill, which would have reached 17 billion dollars this year.

    - AFP

  45. Is there any hope for Malaysia?

    Faced with the reality that BN will never change, many Malaysians desperate for change turn their lonely eyes to Anwar Ibrahim.

    Pakatan Raykat has promised to treat all races fairly, to plug wastage, fight corruption, reform the judiciary and make Malaysia more competitive.

    But some have questioned whether we can trust Anwar and his loose coalition of disparate parties.

    The question is not whether we can trust Anwar and Pakatan Rakyat but whether we can afford not to.

    Can we afford another ten years of BN's misrule?


    For those who started work around 1973,
    a 1.3 Litre Japaness car was RM 7000
    Today the equivalent is.... let's say RM 60000...........8.5 times

    In 1973 a double storey house was about RM 45,000..or less Today it is about RM 300,000............6.6 times
    (It was advertised in a school magazine at 37,000, Taman Lumba Kuda)
    This makes it 8.1 times

    In 1973 an Engineer's pay was RM 1000
    Today it is about RM 2000 +/-............2 times....

    From 1973 to 2008........35 years......what is the Trend.?
    Bearish !!!!
    In a stock market when the trend is bearish , what do we do?..Exit !!!

    When a country's trend is bearish what do we do?
    This Bearish trend is more difficult to turn around as compared to the stock market.

    I have used these 3 items House, Car & Salary as a measurement of the country' s
    performance for the past 35 years....
    Foreigners also ask about these 3 items to gauge our standard of living.

    There is a book I saw in MPH bookshop entitled :
    Malaysia: The Failed Nation
    some of you may be interested to read it.

    I agreed with the writer.....

    This morning I was having Coffee at McDonald (now the coffee..100 % Arabica quite good@ RM refill !!. I asked how much per hour is their pay?
    RM 3.00 ! x 8 hours = RM 24 per day... x 25 days = RM 600 per month

    My daughter works part-time during her University days…she worked at Gloria Jeans Coffee.... the pay ? Australian $ 14.00 ( @ 3.15 = RM 44 per hour.....x 8 = RM 352 per day !!! x 25 days = RM 8800

    13.3 times more !!!!! ......Price of houses in Perth is about the same in KL
    Price of cars are about 23 % Perth.( Australia )

    I think more and more people are becoming aware of this Bearish trend.
    Developed country by 2020?...means High income country
    Let's look at some as of year 2005 ( Financial Times )
    USA GNP per capita US$ 35400
    UK GNP per capita US$ 25510
    Australia GNP per capita US$ 19530
    Singapore GNP per capita US $ 20690
    These are developed countries by income measurement

    Malaysia's GNP per capita US$ 3540
    Year 2020..developed country?

    Really...a sad story.
    Worrying Trends, isn't it??

  46. I cant understand why is it so hard for our leaders to just lower down the fuel price for the sake of their people. Too many excuses here and there...but million and billion incentive announces after the fuel seems that abdullah and the tingkat 4 boys dont know the rules of nature, that when you move somethin...surely it will have a chain reaction...and the people are now suffering from this. But yet all the minister keep denying this, saying the economy is in good track..bla bla bla...when inflation rates keep rising from day to day... I wonder what will happen to our beloved country if abdullah still in power this october...wake up guys...

  47. First the promise to the rakyat that he will lower the fuel price if the price on the intern. market gets down...called review. Now the price IS down and he says, he has to wait untill it will go down more or stabelise. What a bull...! He always will find an excuse NOT to lower the pump price of petrol at all, because the rich are not borthered at all, only the little man on the street does not know how to feed there families!! Wake up Malaysians of all races and see what it is all about......power and money for a few and nothing for all others! Anwar pls. get going!!! September is only a few weeks away!

  48. Malaysia is a net exporter of palm oil. We produce, we consume locally, and we export the remaining. Similarly, we are also a net exporter of crude oil. We produce, we consume locally, and we export the remaining.

    Why worry about declining price of palm oil? Shouldn't we be happy that there'll be less burden on the government if the price is lower?

    Have we forgotten that the government told us that when the crude oil price goes up, that it can't bear subsidy anymore?

    Then the government must be happy with declining palm oil prices, just as it wants the crude oil price to go down. Aren't we subsidised for the palm oil bought in Malaysia?

    I remember reading once where someone pointed out that the price of a bottle of Malaysian palm oil is cheaper in a hypermarket in the UK than the in a shop in Felda itself.

    Can the government's economists explain?

    By Yusri Nuqman

  49. Highest petrol prize today 30.7.08 PETRONAS! Why???????????????? Billions of profit not enough??????

    Ppl can not live with nothing to feed there children!!!